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Sat 15 Oct, 2005 12:13 am
a, b are the roots of the equation: (x-1)^2 = k^2 - k + 2
where k is a real number
How can I find the minimum value of the absolute value of (a - b)?
I think the equation can also be written like this:
x^2 - 2x - k^2 + k - 1 = 0
My learnings is that the sum of roots in ax^2 + bx + c = 0 is -b/a.
So, in this question, sum of roots (a + b) = 2
I don't know whether this is useful in this questions.
c is the common root of the two equations
3x^2 + dx + e = 0 ... (1)
3x^2 + ex + d = 0 ... (2)
where d, e are distinct rational numbers
If d, e are the roots of x^2 + hx+ g = 0 where h & g are postive integers, how to find g?
By sub (1) to (2),
I have found that c is 1 and (d + e) = -3 and h = 3.
But I don't know how to find g.
Please teach me how to do these two questions ... they are not related.
Thank you very much.
Was the question actually written that way - its very imprecise and technically ambiguous, because the roots are one thing but saying a, b, are the roots of (x - 1)^2 = f(k) is just gross. Let's assume they mean (x - 1)^2 - f(k) is a quadratic of x and k is a fixed real number.
Let k^2 - k + 2 be a constant say c
x^2 -2x - (1+c) is your quadratic.
roots are [2 +/- (4 + 4(1 + c))^1/2]/2.
They want you to answer what is abs(a - b) minimum value,
So what is the minimum of (reducing and eliminating terms) (8 + 4c)^1/2 or (4k^2 - 4k + 16)^1/2
Which has a minimum value dependent k in the function (4(k^2 - k + 4))^1/2 = 2(k^2 - k + 4)^1/2 (i.e. when f'(k) = 0) so dervive by k to get
f'(k^2 - k + 4) = 2k - 1 = 0 so k = 1/2
so you answer is min a-b = 2(1/4 + -1/2 + 4)^1/2 = 2(3.75)^1/2 = 3.8729833462074168851792653997824 (root 15)
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Now is your Sum of roots (a + b) = 2 ??? did you calcuate that in some way unmentioned or is that an extra fact you choose to add late rather than at the beginning? Let's treat it as an extra fact you introduced late. What it basically tells us is
[2 + (4 + 4(1 + c))^1/2]/2 + [2 - (4 + 4(1 + c))^1/2]/2 =
2/2 + 2/2 + [(4 + 4(1 + c))^1/2]/2 - [(4 + 4(1 + c))^1/2]/2 =
1 + 1 = 2 ... so no new information there!
This is just the whole question:
Let a and b be the roots of the equation (x-1)^2 = k^2 - k + 2
where k is a real number
(1) Show that a and b are real and distinct
(2) Find the minimum value of abs(a-b)
The others are my own calculation.
I think the question wants us to treat this as a quadratic of x with k being a constant.
I have done (1) by proving the discriminant > 0. So I asked for solution of (2), which I think you have already showed me the steps I need.
Thank you very much.
(x-1)^2=k^2-k+2
let m^2=k^2-k+2
(x-1)^2=m^2
x^2-2x+(1-m^2)=0
so
a,b=1+/-m
so a+b has to be 1+m+1-m=2
|a-b|=|1+m-(1-m)|=|2m|=|2sqrt(k^2-k+2)|
d|a-b|/dk=(-1/2)2[sqrt(k^2-k+2)]^(-1/2)(2k-1)=-(2k-1)/sqrt(k^2-k+2)=0
so 2k-1=0 iff (k^2-k+2)<>0
k=1/2 k^2-k+1=1/4-1/2+2=1 ¾
so k=1/2 to minimize |a-b|
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