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Is Jimmy Buffet talented?

 
 
Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:11 pm
He's not a particularly gifted musician or songwriter, and his novels suck. Yes, I admit I read one of them. Just one. Piece of ****. Yet, he's been able to live the life of a beach bum because his banal music has struck a chord with a fairly large group of people who want to live like he does. But does that mean that he's particularly talented?

I want to be Jimmy Buffet. But just being able to communicate something through music about a lifestyle that people dream about...is that talent?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:17 pm
Yes.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:23 pm
Damned thread-killer.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:27 pm
Defined "talent" - at least what I found.

n 1: natural qualities or talents [syn: endowment, gift, natural endowment] 2: a person who possesses unusual innate ability in some field or activity

Since it is some sort of activity - I guess in a sense he has talent. He has an innate ability to get people to party and wear all sorts of strange attire. How many people have such an ability. Some in some sort of twisted sense - he has talent.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:29 pm
he's a nasty dickhead according to the people in the biz I know, strictly a businessman pretending to be a hippie.

I know for a fact he insulted the piss out of a radio station PD friend of mines' wife who was a huge fan.

I personally think he's made a fortune off of the same one song by doing rewrites of it.

Talent? He's a marketing genius, like KISS.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 02:34 pm
Interesting take, BVT. I wonder if he started out as a hippie and then became a businessman over the years.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 05:11 pm
there are a couple of songs i like, but i think bpb/bvt hit the nail on the head, very kiss like, well marketed product
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LionTamerX
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 05:22 pm
I gotta agree with the bear on this, he's a businessman who found a lucrative niche and cashed in.

I can't stand the crap he plays.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 05:23 pm
You can have your jimmy buffet. I'll be over here at the tuna salad bar.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 05:26 pm
Jim Johnsons Big Buffett doesn't do it for me.....
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 06:03 pm
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
he's a nasty dickhead according to the people in the biz I know, strictly a businessman pretending to be a hippie.

I know for a fact he insulted the piss out of a radio station PD friend of mines' wife who was a huge fan.

I personally think he's made a fortune off of the same one song by doing rewrites of it.

Talent? He's a marketing genius, like KISS.


Illusion ruiner!!!! Evil or Very Mad

:wink:
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 09:32 pm
Well, I never liked him anyway.

Wink
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2005 09:38 pm
What does a Jimmy Buffet show consist of? one set with one song? He is a genius. No shoes, no work, no ****.
There may be a hit there.
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 04:50 am
He's very talented. As a marketer it's true. But isn't that the American way?
He's talented as a song writer too. Read these lines he wrote with Jerry Jeff Walker early in his career:

She's a railroad lady
Just a little bit shady
Spendin' her days on the trains
She's a semi-good looker
But the fast rails they took 'er
Now she's tryin', just tryin' to get home again

South Station in Boston to the freightyards of Austin
From the Florida sunshine to the New Orleans rain
Now that the railpacks
Has taken the best tracks
She's tryin', just tryin' to get home again


Once a high ballin' loner he thought he could own 'er
Bought her a fur and a big diamond ring
She hocked 'em for cold cash
Left town on the Wabash
Never thinkin', never thinkin' of home way back then

But the rails are now rusty
The dinin' car's dusty
Gold plated watches have taken their toll
Yeah the railroads are dyin'
And the lady she's cryin'
On a bus to Kentucky and home that's her goal
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 05:01 am
panzade wrote:
He's very talented. As a marketer it's true. But isn't that the American way?
He's talented as a song writer too. Read these lines he wrote with Jerry Jeff Walker early in his career:

She's a railroad lady
Just a little bit shady
Spendin' her days on the trains
She's a semi-good looker
But the fast rails they took 'er
Now she's tryin', just tryin' to get home again

South Station in Boston to the freightyards of Austin
From the Florida sunshine to the New Orleans rain
Now that the railpacks
Has taken the best tracks
She's tryin', just tryin' to get home again


Once a high ballin' loner he thought he could own 'er
Bought her a fur and a big diamond ring
She hocked 'em for cold cash
Left town on the Wabash
Never thinkin', never thinkin' of home way back then

But the rails are now rusty
The dinin' car's dusty
Gold plated watches have taken their toll
Yeah the railroads are dyin'
And the lady she's cryin'
On a bus to Kentucky and home that's her goal


and will this osng be the D G A song, or the G, C, D song? Laughing
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 05:39 am
Every Rose Has A Thorn chord structure, Bear. :wink:
C'mon you remember!
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 05:46 am
<harumph> Every Rose contains an Em AND a C ... it's practically prog rock <hee hee>
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sudokat
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 06:57 am
What about "he went to paris" and "havana daydreamin". I think he just became lazy or lost the dream somewhere along the way and it's true that a huge portion of his best stuff was written on the backs of other people.

kat
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 07:29 am
You're so right kat...I meant to say that.
His early stuff was fresh and new. Like 'Spider John" and "Come Monday"
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 07:54 am
Time out folks, get a grip. They let Brittany Spears make records and Madonna as well, AND PEOPLE BUY THEM. The upper case was just a dramatic tool, I am not trying to yell at anyone. I'd rather have my eyes gouged out rather than listen to Yanni, but if people want to listen what difference does it make. My Dad always said that God made more Horses asses than he made horses.
My take is, please don't tell me about the personal lives of performers, I just want to be entertained, I don't want to join a cult. And I don't have any recordings or books by Buffet, but occassionally I find my self humming Margaritaville. It means nothing, when I got out of Disney's "It's a Small World After All", I had to get a brain enema to get that frigging song out of my head. And I don't give a crap what Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise does or thinks, I only want to see them on the big screen. I run out of the room screaming when I hear them on talk shows.
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