Katrina Divisive to A2K

Don't get me going about NASA's 1.1 billion dollar request for funds. I was just starting to feel better. Wanna know how I feel about giving NASA 1.1 billion at the moment????

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Husker
Husker, I understand your point of view. And now you know I'm going to have a "however."

However, it is well known that George Bush et al do not respond to the thoughts of the Democrat Party, nor to the Media. The one thing that George Bush has plainly demonstrated is that he responds to public outrage that lowers his poll ratings.

A large portion of US citizens are very upset at how the hurricane/flood disaster has been handled from the local level to the Federal Government's FEMA. A lot of that anger is aimed at the big poobahs in the Bush administration.

This reaction is the result of the public discussion of the failures of government at all levels, but especially at the FEMA level. Without this discussion, the Bush administration's attempt to stifle that discussion as the wrong topic at the wrong time and is divisive, etc., would largely sweep the scandal under the rug.

That must not happen if this country hopes to analyze the governing structure and learn what works well and what doesn't so that when the next disaster occurs or the terrorists strike, we will have corrected the problems that have made the Katrina disaster worse than it needed to be.

I don't find the Katrina discussion on A2K at all divisive. Sometimes it gets heated, but it usually simmers down, even allowing humor to appear between the verbal pissers. Many A2Kers have actually provided very useful information to help us understand the land, it's history, and possible remedies. Many A2Kers have posted information on which we can focus that would otherwise be lost in the Media vast and excellent reporting.

I for one think the Media has begun to redeem itself with the scope and quality of it's report in both the print and visual Media. This excellent reporting has provided A2Kers with the information we need to have broad discussions on a subject will be with us for a long time and will have long term social and economic consequences for all of us for decades.

I also believe that stifling vigorous discussion on A2K is an unacceptable form of censorship. I'm sure A2Kers don't want to see that happen.

Hugs,
BBB

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Altogether now.... "It's all Bush's fault!".

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cjhsa

cjhsa wrote:

Altogether now.... "It's all Bush's fault!".

Perhaps your comment is exactly the kind of rancor that Husker is worried about.

BBB

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Maybe, but I seriously doubt it. The problem is with the lack of a "Git r done" attitude in the Big Easy. From the LA governor on down to the looters. Like I said, "it's all Bush's fault".

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Exactly! From both of you - I'm disappointed
I thought people might be able to post without starting a debate here, thus it's not placed in politics or anything to do with a debate...
Unless you want to just reclassify A2K at an exclusive debate forum.

BBB - are you able to sleep at night? You find it necessary to "however"
................ Sad

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Well Husker, I'm not sure what to say. I didn't see anything devisive about Katrina until some latino dude stood up and said something like "They are only rescuing the blacks, no whites are being rescued". I about died when I heard it.

Many whites refused to leave their pets behind. Cultural differences are vast.

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cjhsa wrote:

Maybe, but I seriously doubt it. The problem is with the lack of a "Git r done" attitude in the Big Easy. From the LA governor on down to the looters. Like I said, "it's all Bush's fault".[/[/b]quote]

unnecessary
Like I said, "it's all Bush's fault"

that's all I faulted you on

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Good thread, husker. I just skimmied the last couple of pages and I tend to think like noddy and dlowan.
I don't really see the devisiveness of Katrina on a2k as I mostly frequent the trivia & word games forum. I don't want to play the blame game. I just want to give kudos to those people at the grass roots level who are doing something to help: like the ballet teacher who organized drs. & nurses to help the sick and wounded (saw that on tv the other day). Giving money is no small gesture either. Every little bit helps. ... There are hundreds of stories of people helping people in my community and in many others in the US. I say pitch in and do what YOU can.

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devriesj
great to hear about the people in your community
dlowan and noddy did pretty good, and a few others had some fine thoughts also. that was the type of discussion I was looking to get along things started pretty well and went pretty well until a little while ago - things got put on a sideways slant and when that happens sometime the whole topic slides off course like a storm hitting shore.

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Husker

husker wrote:

Exactly! From both of you - I'm disappointed
I thought people might be able to post without starting a debate here, thus it's not placed in politics or anything to do with a debate...
Unless you want to just reclassify A2K at an exclusive debate forum.

BBB - are you able to sleep at night? You find it necessary to "however"
................

Husker, I'm puzzled. You start a thread entitled "Katrina divisive to A2K" without a ?

To me, that is making an opinion statement, not one asking a question. Apparently you were only inviting opinions from people who agree with your statement. However, you did not state from the beginning that people who don't agree with that statement are not welcome to post on your thread because you don't want any disagreement or debate.

It's all very confusing. I must be getting addled. Confused

BBB

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just forget it you are dragging this topic down and I'm not going to discuss the merits with you so that you may want to feel superior.

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Well then, how about talk of what's going on in individual a2ker's towns to help Katrina victims? We've got about 100-150 where I live. My kids are collecting change at their school, the local tv station raised a couple hundred thousand dollars, and the people who come here are staying in a former YMCA building converted into make-shift apartments for them and they're being given provisions that they need. What about where you live. Does anyone know or have first hand knowledge of a Katrina survivor story?

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husker wrote:

devriesj
great to hear about the people in your community
dlowan and noddy did pretty good, and a few others had some fine thoughts also. that was the type of discussion I was looking to get along things started pretty well and went pretty well until a little while ago - things got put on a sideways slant and when that happens sometime the whole topic slides off course like a storm hitting shore.

Lol...very mirroring, no?

From long, eventful, and errant experience Husker, I would suggest you simply make a post exemplifying the sort of discussion you want, or commenting on it, and ignore what you do not want.

It seems to work better than castigating it.

But hey, I am just a lagomorph.....what would I know?

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Lagomorphs are people...er, rabbits?? ... too.

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dlowan wrote:

husker wrote:
devriesj
great to hear about the people in your community
dlowan and noddy did pretty good, and a few others had some fine thoughts also. that was the type of discussion I was looking to get along things started pretty well and went pretty well until a little while ago - things got put on a sideways slant and when that happens sometime the whole topic slides off course like a storm hitting shore.

Lol...very mirroring, no?

From long, eventful, and errant experience Husker, I would suggest you simply make a post exemplifying the sort of discussion you want, or commenting on it, and ignore what you do not want.

It seems to work better than castigating it.

But hey, I am just a lagomorph.....what would I know?

you are correct :wink:

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that's bunny love

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dlowan wrote:

From long, eventful, and errant experience Husker, I would suggest you simply make a post exemplifying the sort of discussion you want, or commenting on it, and ignore what you do not want.

It seems to work better than castigating it.

Indeedy.

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husker wrote:

dlowan wrote:
husker wrote:
devriesj
great to hear about the people in your community
dlowan and noddy did pretty good, and a few others had some fine thoughts also. that was the type of discussion I was looking to get along things started pretty well and went pretty well until a little while ago - things got put on a sideways slant and when that happens sometime the whole topic slides off course like a storm hitting shore.

Lol...very mirroring, no?

From long, eventful, and errant experience Husker, I would suggest you simply make a post exemplifying the sort of discussion you want, or commenting on it, and ignore what you do not want.

It seems to work better than castigating it.

But hey, I am just a lagomorph.....what would I know?

you are correct :wink:

Yeah....do what I say, not what I do.

This Bunny is way too world weary and sophisticated for Bunny love....

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Yeah....do what I say, not what I do.

these I hope are not my famous last words Embarrassed

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