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What Jesus really teaches

 
 
kjw47
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 12:55 pm
@The Anointed,
All animals ate vegetation-fruit prior to the flood, There is no mention of dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2022 07:26 pm
@kjw47,
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All animals ate vegetation-fruit prior to the flood,


Mankind is a member of the animal kingdom, and it is obvious that Abel who was a husbandman and knew the choicest pieces of meat to offer the Lord, was a meat eater.

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There is no mention of dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden.


There was no Garden of Eden in the sixth generation of the universe as there was in the seventh day when Adam was created in a barren earth.
kjw47
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2022 11:43 am
@The Anointed,
If you read the account of the flood, it was after God told Noah- Genesis 9:3 God told Noah they could eat meat.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2022 04:23 am
@kjw47,
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If you read the account of the flood, it was after God told Noah- Genesis 9:3 God told Noah they could eat meat.


And where did God say man could not eat meat?
kjw47
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2022 02:16 pm
@The Anointed,
They didnt need to eat meat, neither did animals. God shows in his kingdom on earth after Earth isrestored to a paradise( Eden) the animals( Lion) will eat straw like the bull( Isaiah 11:7--Gods original plan before the flood.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2022 08:27 pm
@kjw47,
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They didnt need to eat meat, neither did animals. God shows in his kingdom on earth after Earth isrestored to a paradise( Eden) the animals( Lion) will eat straw like the bull( Isaiah 11:7--Gods original plan before the flood.


And I suppose you believe that God's original plane was that man should live in paradise forever?
kjw47
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2022 02:41 pm
@The Anointed,
That was his plan, He created Adam and Eve to live forever, never sick, never without, not aging like now. He told them to fill the earth( offspring) and subdue it( turn the whole earth into Eden( paradise) He created them to know only good. They rebelled and lost it all.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2022 10:11 pm
@kjw47,
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That was his plan, He created Adam and Eve to live forever, never sick, never without, not aging like now. He told them to fill the earth( offspring) and subdue it( turn the whole earth into Eden( paradise) He created them to know only good. They rebelled and lost it all.

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Individuals never had it to lose it in the first place my friend, mankind was created to live forever and that plan has not changed. You make up some weird stories mate, or you are just so naïve as to believe any non-biblical rubbish your false teachers tell you.

Unlike the Lord and his heavenly helpers, Adam was a physical animal, born of the earth who was to return to the earth from which all earthly creatures are created. He was given the power of reproduction and continuance of species, something that the angelic beings were not given. He was created to know neither GOOD or Bad, he was created to be obedient.

Adam was forbidden to eat of the tree of knowledge of ‘GOOD AND BAD,’ he simply obeyed his internal instincts like all animals, until the day he began to judge for himself whether those inner commands were good or bad. Then the “LORD” God said, “Now the man has become like one of us and has knowledge of what is good and what is bad, He must not be allowed to take fruit from the tree that gives life, eat it, and live for ever.” So the LORD God sent him out of the Garden of Eden and made him cultivate the soil from which he had been formed.

But the body of mankind will die, EVE the mother of all Adam’s descendants, is in fact the great androgynous body of mankind and she is reunited to her Lord 6 days (Six thousand years) after his death, after the thousand years rule of Jesus (The Great Sabbath) when heavenly fire incinerates all physical life forms on this earth, but the life of Eve is Justified by the child (THE SON OF MAN) that she bears to her Lord.

It is then that all the disembodied spirits of mankind are judged.

This is the time spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 25: 31; When the Son of Man comes as King and all the angels with him, he will sit on his royal throne, and the people of all the nations will be gathered before him. Then he will divide them into two groups, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the righteous people on his right and the others on his left. Then the King will say to the people on his right, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father! Come and possess the kingdom which has been prepared for you ever since the creation of the world.

41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Away from me, you that are under God's curse! Away to the eternal fire which has been prepared for the Devil and his angels!

Revelation 21: 5-8; Then the one who sits on the throne said, “And now I make all things new!” He also said to me, “Write this, because these words are true and can be trusted.” And he said, “It is done! I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end. To anyone who is thirsty I will give the right to drink from the spring of the water of life without paying for it. Those who win the victory will receive this from me: I will be their God, and they will be my children. 8But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practise magic, those who worship idols, and all liars — the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”



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kjw47
 
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Reply Wed 21 Sep, 2022 12:16 pm
@The Anointed,
Who tells you the crap you post. Its not from the bible( some is) but you believe symbolism to be literal.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 22 Sep, 2022 01:53 am
@kjw47,
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Who tells you the crap you post. Its not from the bible( some is) but you believe symbolism to be literal.


Hey! I don't believe that Jesus was an eternal being who, with his father was the co-creator of the cosmos, and who, some two thousand years ago came down to earth and entered the womb of some supposed virgin where he created for himself a human like body, which was not of the seed of Adam as all humans are, in which to walk the earth disguised as a human being, then later, knowing that He could never die, he took that body to the cross and had it killed, while he, still mentally alive, went and preached to those who were disobedient in the days when Noah was building the Ark.

Then after his father resurrected that body, he hung around for a while, before ascending to the kingdom of his father, where flesh and blood cannot enter.

What about you young fellow?

kjw47
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2022 03:42 pm
@The Anointed,
You have it twisted, you listened to blind guides who didnt know what they were talking about.
Jesus was the firstborn of all creation( Coll 1:15) the blind guides say it was at his birth on earth that refers to, but the term-ALL CREATION-occurred at the beginning. He was created first-direct-then all other things created through him--He is Gods master worker of Prov 8 where he tells all he was created.
He was in the grave for 3 days. Not literally speaking to those in Hades-Hades translates the grave.
Peter assures all that Jesus was put to death in the flesh and raised in the spirit(1Peter 3:18)--you are right about no flesh lives in heaven. Jesus being Gods son could appear in the flesh after he rose. They didnt recognize him the first day, so it was a different body. He showed Thomas his real body. He appeared behind a locked door-flesh cannot do that.
99% of the religions claiming to be christian-arent.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2022 04:46 pm
@kjw47,
Kjw47,
I believe that it is true that Anointed considers Arianism to be correct. We have had lengthy discussions in the past.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2022 05:14 pm
@NealNealNeal,
In Mark 10 Jesus talks about the need to be a servant to others. Indeed, He was a servant to the people who made contact with Him. The ultimate show of servanthood was Jesus dying for our sins.
Jesus gave up the glory that He had as the Second Person of the Trinity to come to earth. In POSITION Jesus played a servant ROLE to God the Father. However, He did not give up being God.
Jehovah Witnesses ignore all the verses where Jesus is described as being God (e.g.---John chapter 1). Instead, they point to where Jesus is a servant and don't pay attention to "servant leadership".
kjw47
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2022 05:19 pm
@NealNealNeal,
I showed over and over. In Every Greek lexicon( trinity translating) -At John 1:1 the true God is called HoTheos( The God) in the second line-plain Theos in the last line to the word.= a god). The only other spot in the NT where that occurs is 2 Cor 4:4--The true God called Ho Theos(The God) and satan called plain Theos= small g god--The translating rule is the same at both spots. It neither called the word or satan The God. Small g god means-has godlike qualities. This is 100% fact.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2022 06:00 pm
@kjw47,
You are misinformed about John 1:1. If you look at the Greek text, you will see that it ends in "and God was Word".
Is God "a" Word as JW's have in their version of the Bible? No.
John stresses that God was "the" Word..
Also, please read John 1:3.
kjw47
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 11:51 am
@NealNealNeal,
Fact, the use of HoTheos for the true God in the second line and plain Theos to the word in the last line is like that to show a difference of what one is being called-HoTheos = The God, plain Theos in the same paragraph= small g god= 100% reality.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2022 02:15 pm
@kjw47,
kjw47 wrote:

Fact, the use of HoTheos for the true God in the second line and plain Theos to the word in the last line is like that to show a difference of what one is being called-HoTheos = The God, plain Theos in the same paragraph= small g god= 100% reality.


Here is the literal English translation of John 1:1-3:
In to beginning He was the Word and the Word He was toward the God and God He was the Word. This He was in to beginning toward the God. All through of Him it was/came to be and apart of Him it was/came to be neither one which it has become.
Please note the words "and God He was the Word". This is the last part of John 1:1.
kjw47
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2022 01:03 pm
@NealNealNeal,
A god is 100% correct-- You think you know Greek? In 1822 a Greek Scholar ( A. Kneeland) translated the NT, he compared Greek and English side by side to prove to the world a god was correct, 19 other translations did it correct, 3 had was divine. Rejected by trinity clergys because truth exposes them as false.
NealNealNeal
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2022 02:11 pm
@kjw47,
Kjw47,
I presented the literal Greek words.
Since the literal words are rather rough when translated to English, our Bibles smooth it out.
What I am pointing out is that John 1:1 ends in "God was the Word". It makes no sense to say "God was a Word".
Note: Also remember that John did not put chapters and verses in the gospel that he wrote.
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Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2022 02:24 am
@NealNealNeal,
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I believe that it is true that Anointed considers Arianism to be correct.

Then as usual you would be incorrect young fellow.
 

 
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