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What Jesus really teaches

 
 
kjw47
 
Reply Wed 7 Sep, 2022 07:57 pm
Here are 8 teachings from Jesus, found in every translation on earth. Many think they know what he taught but few actually do because they are not being taught by his real teachers.

1) Matthew 6:33-- Therefore keep on seeking- FIRST - the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added ( sustenance, covering, spirituality-Matt 6)

2) Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth= great crowd no man can number. Same thing taught by the psalmist-Psalm 37:29--The righteous themselves will possess theearth and live forever upon it.

3)The Lords prayer-- Hallowed be thy(Father) name= YHWH(Jehovah) certain translations, last line = the kingdom, power and glory all belong to the Father.

4)At John 17:1-6,26--a prayer to his Father, verse3-This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Jesus calls his Father the ONLY TRUE GOD and its clear-God sent someone named Jesus as a mortal, God did not come himself. verse 6 = YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26 = YHWH(Jehovah)

5) John 20:17, Rev 3:12--Jesus teaches he has a God, just like us, his Father--Paul teaches the same-Coll 1:3, 1Cor 15:24-28, Eph 1:13,17--as does Peter 1 Peter 1:3

6) At John 4:22-24--Jesus starts by warning all that other Gods are false, then says the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.--- Paul teaches the same basically-1Cor 8:5-6--warns all other Gods are false then names only the Father as the true God.

7) John 15:20-21-- Jesus warns people that on account of his name( thinking they are standing for him) will do and say things against the true followers-Why? Because they did not know the one who sent him=Father=YHWH(Jehovah)


One fact is for certain, the teachers Jesus appoints and has Jesus teach exactly what he taught-0 doubt in all creation.

Another great way to look at ones teachers and make 100% sure they aren't these teachers( 2 Cor 11:12-15) they make 100% sure this is accomplished by the flocks

8) Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT, over and over, year after year--The only way they can be sure the flock accomplishes this is by having a discussion like-this week-Genesis chap 1-3--main points discussed by the teacher, then ask the flock what they appreciated in the reading, that way all learn every point possible. the next week Gen 4-6, or sometimes just 2 chapters if they are long--week after week, year after year, it never stops. New ones are born, new ones come in. Its their responsibility to make sure Every utterance is learned by all. All can look now and see if their teacher has Jesus. Jesus real teachers do not fail the flock. After all at John 3:36--those not obeying Jesus( every teaching) remain in Gods wrath.
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kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 03:09 pm
@kjw47,
All who love Jesus are happy to learn the truths he taught. Why no replies?
Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 03:21 pm
@kjw47,
Love your neighbor as yourself.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Those are great. But he also showed what happens when you speak truth that threatens the interests of the established authorities. They didn't like it, and so they tortured it and nailed it alive to a cross as an example to the people of the consequences of nonconformity.
kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 05:43 pm
@Glennn,
They didnt kill Jesus for teaching, love, peace and unity, they killed him for exposing the false religions and wicked practices the majority on earth were doing. Even the Israelite religion was apostocised when Jesus was sent to earth. No they didnt like truth, they still dont.
Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 05:57 pm
@kjw47,
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. . . killed him for exposing the false religions . . .

I don't see that much difference between exposing false religions and threatening the interests of the established authorities."
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 06:37 pm
@kjw47,
For Chrissakes, the whole thing's a man-made fairy tale.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 06:40 pm
@kjw47,
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when Jesus was sent to earth.


Jesus wasn't sent to earth: it was CHRIST the one who was carried up and anointed as the successor to the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation, who later descended in the form of a dove and filled the man Jesus with his spirit/His Words.

KJV: John 3: 13; And no man hath ascended up to heaven, except he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Ephesians 4: 10; He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.

Enoch, the seventh son of the father of Adam, [See Luke 3: 37-38} who was from a previous age of man that was destroyed by water, is the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of ‘The Lord of Creatures’ the Most High in the creation, and was anointed as his heir and successor, to serve God before the body of Adam into all eternity, who was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, (Black Hole) which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing.

The word “CHRIST” means “The Anointed One.” Enoch was the one anointed by the Most-High in the creation, ‘The Lord of Creatures,’ as his Heir and successor, (The Son of Man) who is Lord of spirits.

CHRIST is the English term for the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one" It is a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), usually transliterated into English as Messiah or Mashiach. The Hebrew word translated "anointed" is the verb form of the noun "Messiah."

"The Book of the Secrets of Enoch" 22: 8; "And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: "Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity."

And the archistratiege Michael lifted me up and led me before the Lord’s face.
[Archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael."]

And the Most-High said to the glorious creatures that surrounded him, tempting them: "Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity," and the glorious creatures bowed down to the Lord, and said: "Let Enoch go [Or be released] according to Thy word." Enoch, was the first to be released.

And the Lord said to Michael: "Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory."

And Michael did thus as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s rays, and I looked at myself, and was like one of his glorious ones.

To translate something is to change it from one form to another. Hebrews 11: 5; “By faith Enoch was translated so that he should not experience death, and he was not found because God had translated him.”



Glennn
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 06:46 pm
@Mame,
Lots of manmade things are fairytales.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:08 pm
@Glennn,
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Lots of manmade things are fairytales.


You can say that again, you only have to look to all the man-made contradictory so-called scientific theories.

Here is one such contradictory theory put forward by Niayesh Afshordi, an astrophysicist with Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Canada, which he believes, could explain the singularity within a Super massive Black Hole, from which singularity our ‘Three Dimensional’ Universe was born.

Niayesh Afshordi, proposes that our three-dimensional universe floats as a membrane in a “bulk universe” that has four dimensions and that the “Bulk Universe” has four dimensional stars, which go through the same life cycles as our three-dimensional stars.

The most massive ones explode as supernovae, and their central core collapses into a black hole, (As a Singularity) like in our universe, only in four-dimension. The four-dimensional black hole has its own four dimensional “Event Horizon,” the boundary between the inside and the outside of a black hole.

In a three-dimensional universe, the event horizon appears to be two dimensional. In a four-dimensional universe, it appears to be three dimensional. The four-dimensional black hole, then blows apart, (THE BIG BANG) with the leftover material forming a three-dimensional membrane surrounding a ‘Three Dimensional’ event horizon, which expands---and is essentially our universe.

So, according to the theory proposed by Niayesh Afshordi, our universe is the vomited-up guts of a Super massive fourth dimensional black hole, in which the singularity that is said to have been the origin of our three dimensional universe, had been crushed. The expansion of the event horizon explains our universe's expansion; the fact that its creation stems from another 4D universe explains the weird temperature uniformity.

As attractive as Niayesh Afshordi’s theory is, I will continue to believe in the eternal oscillating universe, which is the evolution of the eternal energy that has neither beginning or end, and that each stage of its activity is a separate generation, and each generation of its eternal evolution, occupies its own position in Space-Time.
kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:09 pm
@Mame,
That would be impossible since all are watching revelation pass before their eyes for well over 100 years. In the OT -Isaiah foretold the fall of Babylon by the hands of a man named Cyrus-200 years prior to that event occurring. There are other things in the OT about outer space no mortal knew back then. Some werent proven until the late 1800,s.
kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:11 pm
@The Anointed,
Mans total misuse of science and math are destroying Gods earth. The air, land, water are all polluted. That means our food is as well. A huge hole in the ozone layer causing havoc weather all over the earth. All being done for $$$$$
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kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:13 pm
@The Anointed,
The being sent to earth wasnt named Jesus until born a mortal. God sent his best, all evidence points to it being Michael.
Enoch did not go to Gods dwelling place, neither did Elijah. John 3:13
Elijah wrote a letter to the king 10 years after the chariot event- 2 Chronicles 21:12-15-- he went through our atmosphere, referred to as heaven and retired to another place. If you remember Gen 1:1 God created the heavenS and the earth--3 references to heaven-Our atmosphere, outer space, and Gods dwelling place=heavenS
The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:29 pm
@kjw47,
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That would be impossible since all are watching revelation pass before their eyes for well over 100 years. In the OT -Isaiah foretold the fall of Babylon by the hands of a man named Cyrus-200 years prior to that event occurring. There are other things in the OT about outer space no mortal knew back then. Some werent proven until the late 1800,s.


John was carried in spirit to the Lord's Day, the great Sabbath of one thousand years, and the book of Revelation is John's account of what he saw on the Day of the Lord.

It may say 2022 on the calendar, but we are actually in year 5782 according to the Jewish calendar.

This modern Jewish chronology which was originated by Rabbi Akiba goes like this. From Adam to the flood is 1656 years, from the flood to Abraham's birth is another 290 years, then to the Exodus from Abraham’s birth is 505 years, from the Exodus to the building to Solomon’s temple was another 480 years, to its destruction 410 years later, then the captivity 70, then 40 to the Seleucid era, then 311 to the Christian era = total 3761 BC.

According to classical Jewish sources, the Hebrew year 6000 (from sunset of 29 September 2239 until nightfall of 16 September 2240 on the Gregorian calendar) marks the latest time for the initiation of the Messianic Age.

The Zohar states: In the 600th year of the sixth thousand, the gates of wisdom on high and the wellsprings of lower wisdom will be opened. This will prepare the world to enter the seventh thousand, just as man prepares himself toward sunset on Friday for the Sabbath.

Jubilees 4: 30; And he (ADAM) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ’On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason he did not complete the years of this first day; for he died during it.

We are now coming to the close of the sixth day, and the beginning of the Great Seventh Day Sabbath. 2 Colossians 16-17; "So, let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about holy days or the New Moon Festival or the Sabbath. All such things are only a shadow of things in the future.
kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:36 pm
@The Anointed,
The jewish calender is not like the normal calender. Bible chronology has man living for 6047 years.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Thu 8 Sep, 2022 07:43 pm
@kjw47,
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The being sent to earth wasnt named Jesus until born a mortal.


You are correct in stating that Jesus was born a mortal, he was born the biological son of Mary and her half -brother Joseph, who were both sired by Alexander Helios 'A Father of renown.'

But let me ask you this: "Whose words were these; 'Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.'"
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2022 01:20 am
@kjw47,
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Bible chronology has man living for 6047 years.


The Jewish chronology correctly has 505 years from Abraham's birth to the Exodus, whereas your Christian biblical chronology, erroneously has 710 years from Abraham's birth to the Exodus.

BTW, still waiting for you to reveal whose words they were which said; "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up."
kjw47
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2022 03:30 pm
@The Anointed,
Every one already knows who said it. It meant something else because the bible is clear God raised Jesus up. The dead can do nothing.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2022 03:37 am
@kjw47,
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Every one already knows who said it. It meant something else because the bible is clear God raised Jesus up. The dead can do nothing.

Deuteronomy 18:18-19; YHVH, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will put MY WORDS in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command, and whosoever will not heed MY WORDS, which he shall speak in MY NAME, I will surely punish, etc.

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when, concerning the man Jesus, he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people. You are to obey everything that he tells you to do. Anyone who does not obey that prophet shall be separated from God's people and destroyed.’

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had promised Moses that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

Jesus spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by the Lord God our savior.

John 5: 24; "Whoever hears my words, said Jesus (Which were the Words YHVH commanded him to speak in his name) and believes in “HIM” who sent me, has eternal life.

Acts 3:19; “Repent then and turn to God, (Not to Jesus, but to God) so that He (God) will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you.” The man Jesus, was chosen and made both Lord and saviour by “Who I Am”.

Acts 3:13; The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus.

John 14: 24; “And the word which you hear is not mine, but ‘THE’ Fathers who sent me. Not “MY Father” but ‘THE’ Father of us all: “Our Father who is in heaven.”

Jesus said to Mary Magdalen in John 20: 17; “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus, the temple of the Lord, which had been filled by the spirit=information=words of the Lord who had descended upon him in the form of a dove? “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?”

They were the words that Jesus was commanded to say by “Who I Am,” who raised the body of Jesus, the earthly temple, which had been filled with his spirit.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

Acts 17: 31; For He (The Lord God our saviour) has fixed a day in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

It was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who said through the mouth his obedient servant Jesus, who spoke in ‘HIS NAME;’ “Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up.”
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kjw47
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2022 06:07 pm
@kjw47,
God raised Jesus from the dead. God did all the stuff through Jesus, Jesus teaches he can do 0 of his own-John 5:30.
Let us discuss the 8 teachings in the OP.
The Anointed
 
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Reply Sat 10 Sep, 2022 10:48 pm
@kjw47,
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God raised Jesus from the dead.

Correct! Jesus, the earthly temple that was filled with the spirit of our Lord God and saviour, was risen from the grave by our God.

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God did all the stuff through Jesus,

Correct! The miracles performed through Jesus were the miracles of our Father, and the words spoken through Jesus, were the words of our heavenly Father

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Jesus teaches he can do 0 of his own-John 5:30.

Correct! Jesus revealed that he could do nothing of his own.

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Let us discuss the 8 teachings in the OP.

Why? When you learn what the Lord taught by the words he spoke through his servant Jesus, then come back and perhaps you might be able to grasp those teachings, for he certainly did not teach that some people standing before Jesus would never die, as you erroneously stated. But in John 20:17, Jesus teaches that we are his brothers, the sons of his Father and the children of his God as he is.

Jesus who was given divine glory by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, see Acts 3: 13; is now incontestably divine, and sits in the heavenly throne of our Father, and Jesus says, "I will give to those who win the victory; the right to sit beside me on my throne, just as I have been victorious and now sit by my Father on his throne."

Victory over the ruler of this world.
 

 
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