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Time and Religion.

 
 
Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2022 09:55 am
One of my friends was an RE teacher. Over here we get Religious Education, not Instruction. The kids are taught about a variety of religions, beliefs practices etc.

Anyway, one thing he thought was neglected in religious discussion is the concept of time. Essentially, as times change so do realities, and religion needs to adapt to that.

Some things like the Golden Rule are pretty much set in stone, but many other things change.

One example of a religion not changing is the Jehovah's Witnesses refusal to have blood transfusions.

Another is Sharia Law.

The Koran is not a legal document. It doesn't set out civic laws, it's mostly a set of instructions for the individual.

When the prophet died a group of scholars were appointed to set up a legal system that was in accordance with the principles of Islam.

The result was Sharia Law.

However, the scholars who wrote it fully admitted it was just their take on it.

The Koran may be perfect, but their interpretation of Islamic Law wasn't. It was of its time.

They said that it was not set in stone, and that every succeeding generation should have a say in this. It should be revised every thirty years or so.

That didn't happen, and I often ponder where Islam would be today if they had done what the creators of Sharia Law wished.

Feel free to comment, but I'd rather keep it about time in general across all religions, as opposed to another debate on Christianity and Islam.
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 01:27 pm
This is for serious discussion, not the deranged rantings of a semi literate moron.

Take your imbecilc utterings somewhere else.
Mame
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 04:46 pm
@izzythepush,
He hasn't made sense once.
PoliteMight
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 04:55 pm
@Mame,
Lets see. Making a writing specifically targeting a group of _____ which just silently could careless about humans being able to function as normal. If we just had WWII the person would probably be on their meds going on about "Why give those Japanese Americans back their property". If it was post Desert Storm I bet they would be dancing with the idea the English did not separate Kuwait and Saddam thinks he could just take over a random nation.
It is like "Lets pretend girls do not have periods day".
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 05:34 pm
@Mame,
It's like he's just come out of electro shock therapy, just out, just wheeled out the door.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 10:22 pm
@izzythepush,
Piggy PRESENCE here in izzy sir’s thread as a faithful audience.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2022 10:49 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

This is for serious discussion, not the deranged rantings of a semi literate moron.

Take your imbecilc utterings somewhere else.


Good luck with your thread.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2022 02:00 am
@edgarblythe,
Thanks
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2022 02:01 am
@htam9876,
Piggy is more than welcome.
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bulmabriefs144
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2022 08:18 am
@izzythepush,
I can see you sorta fumbling to make a comparison between Jehovah's Witnesses and Islam with kinda half-baked justification for the latter.

So lemme help you a bit.

Jehovah's Witnesses not wanting medical procedures is their medical wishes, not a system of law governing others. Under the constitution, we have the right to bodily autonomy (that is, a doctor cannot visit your house, and start jabbing and poking you, taking out organs without your consent).

When Jesus told people "Turn the other cheek" this was a revolution. For thousands of years before this, an eye for an eye and might makes right were the way of the world. Now the world was moving in a direction where states no longer harassed people over their religion. The overall direction of politics was also to at least attempt to have governments based on the will of the people rather than oppression. Christianity paved the way fir other ideas like the Magna Carta. Jesus was ahead of his time.

By contrast, Muhammad lived (according to "history") in a town where people were worshiping a bunch of different religions. This was a high point of peace and religious tolerance. The man proceeded to move from peace to increasing violence, advocating fighting for spoils and marauding people who were just trying to get from point A to Point B. Do you see how I quoted the word history? Robert Spencer doesn't believe Muhammad existed. Other scholars of Islam think that the origin of the movement was actually in Petra, as the land was the wrong fertility, location, and elevation. Mecca was kinda out of the way to be a trade location where many people worshipped. Petra, on the other hand, is even still very fertile and near some of the locations mentioned.

https://swordoftruth.net/20210305/seven-reasons-why-pre-islam-fits-petra-not-mecca

The point? For 1400+ years, Islam has been not "a product of its time" but actually behind its time. When Islam was founded, the world was embracing the teachings of Jesus. Islam was thousands of years of setbacks, and forced fighting.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2022 12:05 pm
Flat earth morons are not welcome.

This conversation is way above their paygrade.
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