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The ongoing question of Israel's refusal to condemn Russia

 
 
Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2022 12:55 pm
Money talks, and Jews are no different. It is boldly being witnessed throughout the Western world that Israel does not care to condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Now, we all know that the Zionists on this forum will make a panoply of excuses for this Star of David entity because there is no way that the Jewish State can ever be implicated in anything nefarious. Never. Never Now. Never Again.

The Jews always want everyone to remember their plights throughout history, but when it comes to non Jews, the tables become turned. Israel should condemn Russia without making excuses, ever. But it does not ... because 'money talks'. - David Lyga
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2022 02:08 pm
@david lyga,
david lyga wrote:

Money talks, and Jews are no different.


Your first sentence full of stereotypes, the money grubbing Jew. A very different creature from your upright virtuous Yankee WASP, who has stopped trading with such foul Oligarchs.

The rest is all assumption and opinion with **** all to back it up. It relies on stereotypes spun the **** out of shape, like all far right horseshit.

Today far right Hungarian Orban hailed Zelensky a enemy after winning an election. Israel hasn't done that.

That happened today, your article on Israeli policy is hardly breaking news, but you attack Israel instead of Hungary because there's no capital to be made from attacking a fellow fascist.

It's all assumption, stereotypes, sneer and innuendo heavy and very light on facts. In fact the only fact is that Israel is not imposing sanctions on Russia to the same extent as the rest of the West. Your explanation why is stereotypically antisemitic; it all has to be about money, they are all money grubbing Jews after all.

What about Russian troops just over the border in Syria, along with Syrian troops and a dictator every bit as unstable as Putin?

I am no friend of Israel either I have long argued for an end to the occupation and for Palestine to be given true independence. I support the boycott of Israel, I always check my fruit and veg and if the only avocados are from Israel I won't be having guacamole.

Those of us who have supported Palestinian self determination over the years are moved by the suffering of the Palestinian people and the brutality of the occupation. That hasn't stopped us being called antisemitic by some of the more rabid supporters of Israel.

AntiSemitic horseshit like this is why they feel they are justified in calling us names, but I will always call it out, because justice for Palestine requires a respect for human rights, not the vile antisemitic language of the Third Reich.

Let's face it, you've got the best of both worlds, being able to engage in your hatred of Jewish people, safe in the knowledge that Israel is Amefica's number one outpost in the ME. It is American hegemony at its finest. Israel gets state of the art US equipment, tests it out on a captive Palestinian population and sends back the results of field tests to American weapons manufacturers.

You're happy about about that. You're also silent about a majority Shia, Iran leaning, people of Bahrain being lead by a tiny Sunni aristocracy because it houses the fifth fleet, projecting US imperial power and threatening the shores of neighbouring Iran.

This **** isn't fooling anyone.
david lyga
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2022 02:22 pm
@izzythepush,
I do fail to see what was, as you need to state, "anti-Semitic". Money talks, and Jews are no different.

Problem Mr Push, is that any, and I mean ANY criticism of the State of Israel is deemed treachery by the Zionist Set. Here, there are no prisoners, just condemnation.

My post was rational, true to form, and in no way, aggrandized. Maybe you should stop pushing your agenda. - David Lyga
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 4 Apr, 2022 02:49 pm
@david lyga,
You didn't criticise Israel, you criticised Jews.
david lyga
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 07:24 am
@izzythepush,
If you say that, Mr Push, of course you MUST be correct. There is no other alternative, given your predisposition to Zionism. - David Lyga
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 07:51 am
@izzythepush,
I'm sure David is as aware as anyone that the jewish people are just as much a victim of their media's misinformation and disinformation campaign as we are here.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 08:20 am
@david lyga,
My predisposition for Zionism?

Really, that is all you have.

I am an outspoken supporter of Palestinian self determination, my posts speak for themselves.

Like most delusional idiots you need to make **** up.

You are an antiSemite. It's all you are, nobody who cares about justice for Palestine will have any truck with a vile bigot like yourself.

Whenever I have spoken out about the mistreatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli occupiers I am often greeted with whataboutism. I am asked why I talk about Israel when countries like Burma are behaving far worse. My response is that when my country, the US and the EU treat Israel the same way they treat Burma I will shut up.

In your case whataboutism is valid. You choose to attack Israel on the same day that the Hungarian prime minister called Zelensky his enemy.

India has refused to condemn Russia, it was one of the countries that abstained on the UN vote condemning Russia and it still buys a **** ton of Russian oil and gas.

Israel voted to condemn Russia.

This thread is all about your antiSemitism, it is not about justice for either Palestine or Ukraine.
david lyga
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 09:21 am
@izzythepush,
I guess, then, according to your whim, I am the new Nazi. - David Lyga
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 09:25 am
@david lyga,
It's got nothing to do with me, you should stand by your own words and your use of antisemitic stereotypes to criticise Israel.

Other "allied" countries have been far worse in their conduct with Rusdia, India, Hungary, Pakistan, Iraq, but you choose to single out Israel.

If it looks like a duck...

You are a bigot and an antisemite, but I don't know if you'd go a far as building a gas chamber in your own back garden.
david lyga
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 10:06 am
@izzythepush,
I am so sorry to have disappointed you Izzy, because I know that you wait up at night for my posts.

Try to understand that David Lyga is a bit 'slow' and, although he tries to adapt to the current 'in vogue' set of social mores, he sometimes flounders. His intellect is not as intact as is Izzy's. You are the font of knowledge. Acknowledge that. - David Lyga
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2022 10:18 am
@david lyga,
It's late afternoon here you dozy idiot.

I don't live in America.
david lyga
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 07:45 am
@izzythepush,
Mr Push, your intellect is sound and profound … indeed, ‘tis unbound!

I humbly defer to your refined level of perspicacity, (which really attests to an endearing capacity for sagacity).

Finally, I boldly herald your kindly decorum, which evinces proper bearing, not a learned rudeness, upon this almighty Forum.

Apparently, the moderators concede with that I have here said to you. You do remain untouched, even enshrined and quiescently encouraged to speak as you wish against me. My negative assessment of this Able2Know forum was, and remains, correct and intact.

With light of the most recent atrocities in Ukraine, Israel retains its refusal to condemn Russia. Allow this reality to coexist with the uncompromised reality of having the Holocaust shoved down everyone's throat, without reprieve, forevermore. Truth is truth. – David Lyga
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 07:54 am
@david lyga,
Idiots and flatterers mistake verbosity for intelligence.
david lyga
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 07:57 am
@izzythepush,
And, I do concede, that it is YOU who is the sage and David Lyga who is the idiot. We do not disagree. - David Lyga
Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 08:54 am
@izzythepush,
It seems that you see an antisemite behind every corner. To illustrate my point, you condemned me for not sticking up for the Palestinian people in these forums. But that turned out to be yet another example of your tendency to believe what you need to in order to exercise your blind anger.

But I corrected your error. Now stop calling people antisemite just cuz you can't remember shyt.

God, you're a walking fist!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 09:01 am
@david lyga,
David Lyga this is Glenn.

(Izzy runs out of the building.)
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david lyga
 
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2022 10:02 am
@Glennn,
Glennn, the REAL question here is the inaction of the moderators. Steadfast in allowing anyone to call anyone who is politically incorrect 'anti-Semitic' is how this forum operates. Period. These moderators love to see people like you and I condemned and that is how this inaction on the part of Israel succeeds. By letting people who do not kiss the butt of Israel KNOW that that are the lowest of the low, that is how this forum's agenda gets its impetus.

Again, the problem is not jerks like that pushy individual, but, instead, HOW that person is allowed to continue his rants. I have insulted no one, no ethnicity, nothing. But ... daring to question the REAL intentions of Zionism is the excuse that this forum needs to 'look the other way'. Yes, Jespah, that is YOU.

What is now happening in Ukraine is, by far, the worst Europe has seen since WW II. When I dare to question the almighty Israel as to WHY it is not confronting Russia with such mass murder and torture, in effect, Israel says that it has better things to do rather than deal with that attack upon humanity. On the other hand, any time Israel wants to shove the Holocaust down everyone's throat, or make it a CRIME to dare question this Holocaust, Israel can readily facilitate through pressure such laws, internationally, getting people thrown in prison, because it does so through intimidation. If that is not Chutzpah, what is?

Indeed, all hell breaks loose and it suddenly becomes permissible, even fashionable, to castigate people with ad hominem attacks like those brought forth by zealots like Ixxythepush. The moderators on this forum are just as corrupt. They are supposed to be transparent, but, instead, they do nothing but tacitly support these ad hominem attacks for the sole reason that these attacks attack people who dare to question the Jewish State. No apologies here. Jespah, you are not so pure, even though you try to present yourself as a fair individual. - David Lyga
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2022 07:08 pm
Israel was held back to give Putin a secret backdoor to negotiate out of the light.

You brains didn't know that???? Bush leaguers!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2022 07:18 pm
@david lyga,
What a crock of stereotypical anti-Semite crap.
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