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Space Shuttle Returns to Orbit!

 
 
cjhsa
 
Reply Tue 26 Jul, 2005 12:37 pm
Since no one else seems to have posted anything:

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/050726_sts114_launchsuccess.html
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jul, 2005 05:51 pm
Quote:
NASA Grounds Shuttle Fleet Following Damage Reports, CNN Says

July 27 (Bloomberg) -- NASA is grounding its shuttle fleet after cameras showed foam insulation appeared to break off the shuttle Discovery during its launch into space yesterday, Cable News Network reported.

The move comes after the crew of the space shuttle Discovery examined the craft's exterior for damage. A large piece of foam along a liquid oxygen tank appeared to break off during the launch, and engineers also expressed concerned about tiles that were stripped off the craft, CNN said.

``We won't fly until we fix it,'' CNN reported Shuttle program manager Bill Parsons as saying. When the foam fell off, it didn't appear to cause any damage to the shuttle and the crew on board Discovery are not in danger, CNN reported, citing the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

The shuttle Columbia was destroyed after a chunk of insulating foam struck its left wing during launch, punching a hole that allowed atmospheric gases to tear the spacecraft apart during its return to Earth two weeks later on Feb. 1, 2003.

(Cable News Network 7-27)


crap

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a.DD5ONVF4yE&refer=us
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 01:16 pm
Much of the blame for the problems with the foam can be blamed directly on the EPA as they banned use of freon in the application process. The foam doesn't stick as well as it used to and tends to form air pockets, which pop like popcorn as the outside air pressure drops.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 01:41 pm
and now we have the final facts from cjhsa, the current problems the shuttle is having are caused by the loony left and their damned concern for the environment. we have now gone, truely, where no man has gone before "psycho-babble land"
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 01:45 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Much of the blame for the problems with the foam can be blamed directly on the EPA as they banned use of freon in the application process. The foam doesn't stick as well as it used to and tends to form air pockets, which pop like popcorn as the outside air pressure drops.


And they didn't know this prior to the launch????
Shocked
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 01:51 pm
The problem is a 60's technology on a 70's airframe attempting to accomplish a 21st century mission. Most of this is due to consistent underfunding caused by constant tax cutting and budget shortfalls. Now who as caused that problem?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 02:40 pm
Two and a half years of testing and they couldn't work it out.

They shoulda asked cjhsa. Confused
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einherjinn
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 02:49 pm
its the design...
The biggest problen is the design...
NASA originaly planned to attach the shuttle tu the front of the fuel tank avoiding the problem completly, but some rocket scientist proposed tu position the shuttle behind the fuel tank with the argument that it would be more aerodynamic. But what is the point of that if the succes of a mission is 50/50?!?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 28 Jul, 2005 03:51 pm
Hey Dys, prove me wrong. In the meantime, eat me.
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OperaGhost
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2005 08:15 pm
Just thank goodness they arrived back safely today. Now they can really sit down and figure out what is wrong without anyone else getting hurt.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 9 Aug, 2005 10:30 pm
I was going to create a topic for this, but this thread is just as appropriate.

The Space Shuttle, officially the Space Transportation System (STS), is the fruition of an idea whos time has come--and gone about twenty years ago. The concept behind it was a spacecraft that could be launched into orbit by rocket, and then glide back into the atmosphere to a landing like an aircraft, and be reusable. It was conceived that such a spacecraft would be more feasible to use than conventional expendable rockets and space capsules. Just as importantly, it was a space project by which the US could demonstrate its technical prowess to the world (read: the Soviet Union). "If we can conceive it, we can make it" was the inspiration, not unlike Kennedy's earlier, "because it's there" raison d'etre for the manned moon missions. So, the Space Shuttle program was kicked-off, the first shuttle was launched ito space, it came back and landed as expected. It was spectacularly successful. Soon, more shuttles were built, and shuttle launches became so common that they ceased to be aired by the major television broadcast corps.

The problem with the StS is that it's ends, rocket launch/ aircraft return, and semi-reusability, are irrelevant and incongruent to the larger, international space program objectives: duration research in space, the return to the moon, and a manned mission to the planet Mars.

The STS is so exceedingly complex that any ideas of cost-effectiveness were thrown out of the equation even while it was still being developed. It's been cheaper and much more reliable to use conventional rockets to deliver payloads to space. Science experiments are better handled by the International Space Station (ISS) than by the STS, which was not designed to stay in orbit for much more than a week.

The STS is in effect a very expensive, highly unreliable freighter that has proven to be woefully inappropriate and obsolete for the purposes it's being applied to. It is the white elephant of the US space program.

A few weeks ago the New York Times reported that the Space Shuttle program is going to be phased out in favor of more conventional rockets and space capsules. NPR broadcast a similar story today.

Here's a pic from the NYT story showing what the next generation of spacecraft might look like.
http://home.elp.rr.com/infrablues/02nasa_graphic.gif
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OperaGhost
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2005 06:17 am
Do you have a link to where I can see that article online? I'm very interested in seeing how this new concept would work. Thanks.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 11 Aug, 2005 09:02 am
I don't think the article, "Redesign Is Seen for Next Craft, NASA Aides Say" by WILLIAM J. BROAD,
is available throught the NYT site anymore. You'd have to pay for it.
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