littlek
 
Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 08:11 pm
I have a friend who has a spot in her garden she can't work. It is solid shade for most of the day, but it gets direct midday sun for 2-3 hours. Most shade plants she's tried were toasted by the strong midday sun. And most sun plants got leggy from lack of sun.

This spot is between a small lawn and a garage wall, in a bed only about 2 feet deep. There is a clematis growing against the wall, but it's bare (as they often are) for the bottom 2-3 feet.

So, she wants a plant that will be ok there and will stay within the bed size and grow up to cover the bare clematis vine-base.

I told her to snip one of the legs of the vine to help bring growth down, but she seemed leary of doing that.

I offered these plants as options to try (I can't remember all that I thought of then):

Stella doro daylilies
Astillbe
Baptisia/false indigo
Peonies
dwarf azalea

I think there are sun-tolerant, verticle ferns that could be had.

Who has more suggestions? I was thinking along the lines of folliage plants - plants that bloom better in sun, but live ok with more shade.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 08:30 pm
Are any Carex varieties tall enough?
20" Carex muskingumensis 'Oehme' (Variegated Palm Sedge) spot to dry for it?
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 08:42 pm
foxglove (eh)
anenome
beebalm
cardinal flower
rudbeckia
monkshood
snakeroot
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Piffka
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:28 pm
I have a similar trouble spot right behind our garage (sandwiched between three walls and a very large fir tree. Lamb's Ears love it. I don't irrigate there. Though some websites say that they are full sun plants, I haven't found that to be true at all:
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/138/


I'd also suggest Box which I find it to be a very handy and hardy plant, very amenable to pruning.

Boxwood - Buxus sp.
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General Information: Boxes are densely branched shrubs native to Europe and Asia. A hedge steeped in history, box sprigs have been found in the tombs of Romans. It is widely used as a hedge plant, and is a common topiary subject. Most varieties of box are marked by a distinctive "foxy" smell which some find distasteful. The box is an important plant commercially, as it is one of the few woods heavier than water, and is thus used for making woodcuts and precision instruments.

Most boxes are grown as hardy bonsai, but the Harland box has been successfully grown as an indoor plant. Box is very popular for bonsai due to its tiny leaves and flowers and its tolerence for extensive pruning and shaping. One note of caution: box leaves are poisonous, and eating even a few can kill a small pet.

Lighting: Box is not particular. Sun or shade both work well. Buxus harlandii prefers shade or semi-shade, and has an indoor light requirement of only 800 Lux.

Temperature: Hardiness depends on variety, but boxwoods need protection from frost and cold winds even when grown in the proper climate. In the summer, box appreciates fresh air.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:29 pm
Impatiens?
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:34 pm
Dys, they're too short, but good guess.

Piffka - boxwood would work there, but not really with her style - ya know?
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:35 pm
I can't suggest specific plants, but any trouble spot is improved by lots and lots of compost and lots and lots of mulching.

A well nourished plant is a fighter.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:36 pm
George Tabor azaleas might work - they're hardy southern indicas. I kept mine to about 12-18" deep, in a long planting row by a chainlink fence. Not sure if they are right for your zone though.
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:36 pm
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:42 pm
Noddy - true, she hasn't laid down mulch (I told her to).

Osso thanks!

Slappy..........thanks, but no thanks.
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:46 pm
George Tabor azaleas wouldn't make it to November here <sigh>
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fishin
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:52 pm
If she's looking for something that might be a little more carefree and there aren't any little one's running around she could try baneberry.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 09:55 pm
evergreen azaleas with some acidic soil amendments (pine needles) might do very well.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:12 pm
Tabor is evergreen, but being a southern indica azalea is probably iffy in that climate, even though it and 'formosa' are the hardiest of them. Hmm, trying to remember other azalea groups - belgian indica?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:15 pm
Looks like Gable hybrids will take 0 degrees....

http://www.berkeleyhort.com/plants/p_azaleas_hybridtypes.html
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littlek
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2005 10:24 pm
we need -0 hardiness - we're zone 6.

there are little ones..... but many plants are poisonous.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2005 04:29 pm
How about Annabell hydrangeas?
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Piffka
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2005 06:13 pm
I can't imagine someone needing such a specific plant and not loving a variegated buxus... however these are also low-growing:

Silk-tassel Bush

Hellebore (the shade-loving variety)

Euonymus fortunei

common white calla lily, which, unlike the colored versions, prefers mostly shade.
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littlek
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2005 08:16 pm
J_B - I think I suggested hydrangea and she nixed the idea..... I'll try to suggest it again.

Piffka:
Cala lilies are annuals here. <sigh>
I don't know whatsilk-tassel bush it - a willow?
Hellebore is too short.
Maybe the euonymus.....
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jul, 2005 08:24 pm
The white snowballs would be pretty foreground to the clematis. Maybe she's thinking about the mopheads that get all dropping. Annabells stay upright pretty well.
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