Dealing with Denial: Can any Trump supporter admit that Trump is losing?

In answer to the question in the thread title, no, I seriously doubt it - look at any number of "trump threads" and the posts of his fanboys here alone.



I'd say the answer to that question is "yes". And I doubt they will accept the result of your country's election if Biden wins and trump loses.



In regards to trump's most loyal supporters, I doubt it. And likely in at least some cases it will be what you would call "willful ignorance" on the part of the average trump supporter/fanboy.

In regards to anyone looking at it in any objective way, then while I don't agree it's a foregone conclusion just yet, it's not looking good for trump at this point. But I still wouldn't count your chickens just yet, that said.

Too early in the campaign to be making this sort of conclusion. A lot can happen in four months and the US electorate is notoriously fickle. Watch him roll out a big tax cut, announce the creation of a USA-made vaccine, and reveal that Melania is pregnant.

What did the polls say last time?

There you go again, telling everyone else what to do. Find your own polls. You’ve already said you only go outside for essentials so you’ve got plenty of time.

Geez, we all know exactly what the polls said the last time. It was rhetorical.

I don’t know what they said. I don’t follow American news that closely.

If you ignore Izzy, the conversation will be a lot better.

I assume you are talking about the 2016 polls. I would make the following points.

1) The national polls in 2016 were pretty accurate nationally.
2) It was the state polls that lead to a bad overall prediction. They missed by 5% or so in key states.
3) Some polling experts questioned the polls before the election happened. For example, the polling experts at 538 suggested that a Trump victory in 2016 was possible before it happened.
4) This time around the polling data is quite a bit worse for Trump in pretty much every way.

You’re another one who thinks he can tell everyone else what to do.

Why don’t you get your far right sock puppets to post on here so you can claim to be reasonable?

You’re not fooling anyone.

Hi Izzy

Hi Oralloy.

Until November, he has the same chance of a win as anyone else.

Most people swore up and down that he would be defeated in 2016. You might recall how that went.



...for the record, I told folks in 2016 that Trump was likely going to win.

Usually a wise decision. My method is browse and choose. I also have the common sense to look over at Fox 'News' occasionally. Keeps me aware of their latest blather and lies. Many (most?) liberal democrats don't soil their fingers or eyes with Fox. Then too, most of the far right won't glance at CNN.

America, once so promising, now mainly uninformed.

I always found CNN a bit too right wing for my tastes.

It is interesting that no Trump supporter has chosen to respond to your inquiry.

Trump announced that, 2020 will be the most "rigged" election in history. What if he wins??
"Oh I just lied"

Wasn't the 2016 election "rigged"... even though trump still won it anyway ?

I think you'll find if god forbid he wins another term, he'll say something to the effect of "they rigged it and the people still love me and re-elected me anyway. Because I'm such a great president" or some such dribble.

The reason why he's saying "it's rigged" isn't really because he thinks it actually is (although it doesn't mean he doesn't think the democrats along with the mainstream media would try to rig it), it's so if he loses, he can say "I told you they rigged it because they hate me" - a cover in case he loses. Basically setting up an argument "in the event of" him losing. It's very much a political strategy on trump's part, rather than anything else.

I'll be willing to bet if he loses, he won't accept it, and will likely take it to court.

hes never been able to pprsent any facts or evidence about "rigging" os 2016. Id really like to see Biden debate him about such evidence.

Trump's 2016 campaign was brilliantly executed. His team counted electoral votes. Hillary's did not. Trump scored on having heard the wishes of untapped resources (, old white guys, old white HS and lower educated white guys, southerners and tea partiers ).
As weve seen in almost 4 years of his regime, he generally stands for nothing except his own wealth and his uninformed opinions. His capture of the GOP will quickly disappear if the Senate GOP discovers that their home constituencies have lost patience and respect foor Trump. His base will evaporate.

Ill be a happy camper if he goes down in a landslide for Biden.
TRUMP's memory must be repudiated

I'd prefer it if he was doing better. But I think there is quite a bit that he can do to turn this around.

Taking charge of the National Guard and ordering them to restore order in Seattle will boost his popularity for example.

Prosecutions and long prison terms for these statue vandals will boost his popularity too.