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Grifit
 
Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 06:53 am
I understand that it is not a lethal virus, only that there are many uninformed people who are alarmed or that is what I think now, but is it really not so lethal?
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 07:14 am
It is expected to kill half a million people in the US.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 09:36 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

It is expected to kill half a million people in the US.


I just love to see you link to such a silly claim. Once more this seems not to be as deadly as a normal flu season let alone the Spanish flu of 1918.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 10:52 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
https://i.insider.com/5e62a449fee23d58c83a9e62
https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-preparing-for-millions-of-hospitalizations-2020-3
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 12:55 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


So you are not going by the cdc or other such experts but some nonsense in some business mag!!!!!!
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 03:16 pm
@Grifit,
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...not a lethal virus...


Tell this to the thousands who have perished from it, already.

...oh, wait ✋, you can't, seeing as how they're dead. So it was lethal for them.


Anyways, in the words of the late President, Frankie Roosevelt, "There is nothing to fear but fear itself". Seriously. If you begin to worry, your immune system may be challenged and that could cause you harm.



As Alfred E. Neuman asked, What, me worry?


Just watch what's going on around you, avoid coughing and sneezing folks and wash your hands regularly.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 03:21 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
...silly claim...
...seems not to be...


SEEMS being the key word.

It's just getting started. So far it is multiplying faster than hotcakes at an always open diner!

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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 04:36 pm
@oralloy,
Triple or quadruple that number counting the old people that will avoid hospitals like the plague even when they do seriously need one. Ad some more in damned if you do, damned if you don't regarding avoiding panic and global recession.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 06:00 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
So you are not going by the cdc or other such experts but some nonsense in some business mag!!!!!!

The slide was produced by such an expert. The fact that it was leaked to a magazine does not change that.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 07:06 pm
@BillRM,
the sources in the diagram aren't hacks

not a huge fan of business insider, but their sources are generally verifiable
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2020 07:08 pm
@BillRM,
https://netec.org/blog/

https://www.aha.org

https://www.aha.org/2020-01-22-updates-and-resources-novel-coronavirus-2019-cov

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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2020 08:00 am
@BillRM,
a2% lethality was what CDC was originally talking about. Now its at about 0.5% .Theyve been able to get a better handle from other countries.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2020 08:56 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

a2% lethality was what CDC was originally talking about. Now its at about 0.5% .Theyve been able to get a better handle from other countries.




The survive rate seem to depend on age and health conditions in other word it is death itself for old people with existing health problems such as myself an a minor problem for most people.

Nursing homes population will be wipe out but after visiting such even top of the line homes I would prefer to have a virus end my life.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2020 09:59 am
@BillRM,
make sure yer will is all in order. I too am of the age of concern.

The Spanish the 1919 Spanish flu was 180 different. The target population was the young , whose immune systems were fighting against themselves
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2020 10:04 am
@farmerman,
since this is a retrovirus, it eveolves all sorts of new tricks to assure its survival and multiplication. Most fluse will reorder themselves and lethality drops since the flu's habit of killing its hosts is against its own prime directive to live and multiply. So weve already seen that immunity afforded by survival allows the damn thing to evolve and strike again and again. Also we see that some places have shown human to animal transmission.

This could be interesting observation-wise.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2020 05:21 pm
My question is are we going to shut the nation down for every flu season with a similar death total of coronavirus?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 30 Mar, 2020 05:23 pm
@BillRM,
Yes.

A flu season that is predicted to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans would also be justification for shutting down the nation.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 Mar, 2020 12:27 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Yes.

A flu season that is predicted to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans would also be justification for shutting down the nation.


Given the average yearly death rate from the flu then you are for shutting down the nation every year during flu season?

Take a look at the average repeat average yearly death numbers in the US due to the Flu that can be found on the CDC website.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 31 Mar, 2020 12:43 pm
@BillRM,
You forget the transmissibility of corona v seasonal rhinoviri and flus. This stuff is amazingly transmissible. I think they estimated at least 3.5 X transmissable over seasonal flu + the increased initial lthality.

You seem to still be caught up in denial .
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 31 Mar, 2020 12:50 pm
I just voted up all of Oralloy's posts in this thread. Never in all time I've seen him here have I done something like that. I've also voted down all of Bill's posts--but that's nothing unusual. I normally don't vote down posts, but Bill richly deserves it in this thread.
 

 
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