@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
Your argument is only half based in science and you neglect the other portion. There is a process to transgender - it's not like some dude wants to get ahead so he tries out for a sport in a female section. Yes, people vary in size and shape, capabitities, drive, desire, aptitude and even physical prowess.
To me, it's plain discrination. And I don't agree with your stance.
I don't think you completely read what I wrote. I have not even stated which way it should go - I am arguing both sides because it is not an easy answer which is fair, equal and not discriminating against either girls/women and transgender. In either situation someone is going to be discriminated against and is there a way to determine this as fairly as possible.
I said exactly what you are saying here - that it is discrimination - and that is why it is difficult how to weigh between the girls vs. transgender issue.
And if you read through all I wrote you would see that I also mentioned that this is NOT a situation where guys are all of a sudden going to try to get some sort of athletic advantage by saying they identify as a female.
I actually said all the things you are arguing to me about.
The only difference I have stated that you do not seem to agree with is that men/boys have a significant physical advantage over women/girls which is proven by science.
And that allowing transgender (those that are biologically still male) to play on female teams appears to run counter to Title IX. That is probably why the NCAA has the stance that they do.
I have not taken a side at this point - I am trying to state both sides and see what others takes are.
I have not seen you look at it from these girls point of view - how would you suggest accommodating them? Is there a way? When you have held a rule that boys cannot compete in girls track and then change it - so suddenly now these girls lose out of competing in a regional competition because they come in second in state. And where they lose their state title because they are competing against biological boys? How do you balance these?
I had one thought that you in these situations you allow the top biological girls to move on as well.