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aristotle prime mover what is it?

 
 
Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2020 08:46 am
because nothing can cause itself to move is Aristotle's prime mover not an object, but an inherent property of objects? If something is a property of an object the object behaves in a certain way because of the property, which doesn't need to move because the object is inherently that way
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Reply Fri 31 Jan, 2020 02:16 pm
@xrickandmorty,
No. Aristotle's unmoved mover is outside of the universe. It isn't an inherent property of objects. It is God.
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Reply Fri 7 Feb, 2020 07:52 am
@InfraBlue,
why
1. why is it god? dont say its god without using logic. else, how did you conclude a god exists logically.
2. The prime mover by definition can't not be a part of the object because
nothing can cause the prime mover to move as Aristotle defined it yet the prime mover cannot move too. Nothing can move itself. The property which is the prime mover doesn't need to be a property of every object.
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Reply Thu 13 Feb, 2020 03:54 pm
@xrickandmorty,
That's Aristotle's conclusion, not mine. Also, the prime mover is not a property.
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2020 01:39 pm
@InfraBlue,
the prime mover is an object that is described as something that can move itself, but an object is something that requires motion to move. Yet the prime mover requires motion to move, and just because there needs to be a cause for movement that is independent of the system it creates, the prime mover is not to the best of my conceptual knolledge need to be the solution. The concept of a prime mover being an object disproves itself because no object can cause itself to move, and something inherently causing something to move is a property of the object, not the object itself. separately in separate
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