Plant Based "meat" is this healthy?

Again, your ignorance is getting in the way. That is not meant as an insult, and if you take 3 seconds to look up the definition of "ignorance" you'll find it describes a lack of knowledge in a particular area, not stupidity.

This is a photo of the "grasslands" of Inner Mongolia that have been under drought conditions for most of the past 30+ years.

I invite you to move to this location and try to sustain yourself on vegetables. That will be hard to do under the persistent drought conditions. However there are tufts of grass that do manage to grow. I invite you to eat the tufts of grass, if you wish. The alternative, as practiced by the locals, is to raise sheep which are indeed able to eat the tufts of grass and turn them into meat. Mutton and sheep milk are the primary foodstuffs of the Mongolian people.

I don't raise this randomly, I have traveled to Inner Mongolia and have seen this first hand and have eaten with the Inner Mongolian peasants. Since you fairly obviously haven't, you assume that they can simply order vegetable dishes fully prepared and delivered by Uber from their local Whole Foods. But no, there's no Uber there, nor Whole Foods.

There are thousands of other examples that you are equally ignorant of, including the fact that YOU DON'T EAT CORN STALKS. However cows do. The chopped up cobs and stalks of corn plants would otherwise go to waste, but are good food for cows that can digest these and turn them into edible food. Let me know when you figure out how YOU can eat these and turn them directly into energy. Cows figured that out many millennia ago. It's called "Corn Silage" Look it up.

That what you say may be true of me,I really dont have the necessary patience to be more avuncular with folks who havent spent time learning about what they opine. However, I think that waiting until you have the same understanding available to farmers ad stock breeders then perhaps you should follow your closing admonition.

I find that, on the internet, folks rarely admit error and ,to maintain "big face", they try to keep an argument going with minor changes of their original point in subsequent posts so that by 4 pages later, their comments and statements have changed over 180 degrees without anything in error admitted .

The net is no place for intelligent debate really. We already have too many guys who are experts on so many things. Im two inches wide but a mild deep. Theres only about 3 or 4 things Ill argue about and farming happens to be one.

Tastes are subjective. They change as your diet changes.

That's not a viable idea and you know it.

You are just implying that some waste is inevitable so it is no worse to feed plants to animals in order to eat the animals than it is to eat the plants directly.

When you fail to exercise the liberty to take social responsibility, your freedom becomes someone else's burden.

My diet is not going to change. I am going to keep eating meat.

No. It isn't a good idea.

Humans are capable of slicing plant genes into our DNA and producing chlorophyll in our skin if we wanted to do so.

Waste is not inevitable. It is merely desirable.

livinglava wrote:

When you fail to exercise the liberty to take social responsibility, your freedom becomes someone else's burden.

I doubt it. But if so, that's their problem.

We raise market sheep and our growth records are (while not full organic) are as chemical free as can be certified. Butchers who buy our products Kosher/Halal/ as well as Standard cuts.
For our own use, we buy our chickens from a chem free (animal source free as well) who grows poultry on a real free range facility and the folks there have stock dogs to protect the flocks from coyote and fox. They don't confine the chickens and the birds are served chem/GMO free an the meat has a CHICKEN FLAVOR (unlike most Tyson or Del Marva birds that are mostly confined grown .

We've been in this for almost 30 years and we started as standard multi purpose sheep producers and gradually changed over to support a much more sophisticated and demanding MEAT market.(A lot of our market is still with the Corriedale wool and Alpaca cloths) If someone goes to a custom cut butcher for lamb, they usually are wise enough to know the difference in product value. In actuality, were gradually going back to the way meat was produced before the ages of refrigeration, except now we have refrigeration and can best utilize what "aging" can do for meat flavor and texture.

It all sounds great. It's a shame that the current younger generation seems so clueless as to what real food is. It's not just meat; they're shunning milk for instance and drinking "almond milk" instead thinking that it's somehow healthier for them; but it's garbage too, it's just water, sweeteners, thickening agents, and often only 2% almonds.