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Present Time Does Not Exist

 
 
fresco
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2019 03:42 pm
@livinglava,
Smile
Elsewhere you wrote
Quote:

Assuming that there is only one reality and every form of language and concept humans have developed refers to some perception/experience of reality,...

Unfortunately that example of your naive realist assumptions tends to disqualify you as a serious contributor to ontological 'discussions' (ie. those concened with 'existence' as raised by the OP). This should eliminate your need to 'guess' about my refusal to engage.
livinglava
 
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Reply Tue 17 Sep, 2019 06:07 pm
@fresco,
fresco wrote:

Smile
Elsewhere you wrote
Quote:

Assuming that there is only one reality and every form of language and concept humans have developed refers to some perception/experience of reality,...

Unfortunately that example of your naive realist assumptions tends to disqualify you as a serious contributor to ontological 'discussions' (ie. those concened with 'existence' as raised by the OP). This should eliminate your need to 'guess' about my refusal to engage.

First, you bringing this into this thread from another thread is hijacking the thread to argue over a paradigmatic issue.

Second, if you think believing in multiple realities is par for the course in discussing time, then you are in your own reality with that and there's no point trying to reach you in that reality.

You can take whatever you want seriously in your reality, then, but it will have nothing to do with what is worth taking seriously in anyone else's reality, i.e. because yours is separate, at least in your own mind/beliefs.
fresco
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 12:14 am
@livinglava,
I doubt whether you understand the concept of 'paradigm', since you certainly have no clue about the paradigm of 'differential observer reference frames' well understood by all physicists, and elegantly extended by Rovelli.
In short, you are out of your depth both here, and apparently, on many other threads, judging by your 'thumbs score'.

Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 18 Sep, 2019 03:02 am
@Beaker17,
Yes what there is is no conscious subject in the present, but that is old news...yet another stone in the free will bullshit talk!
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livinglava
 
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Reply Thu 19 Sep, 2019 02:30 pm
@fresco,
fresco wrote:

I doubt whether you understand the concept of 'paradigm', since you certainly have no clue about the paradigm of 'differential observer reference frames' well understood by all physicists, and elegantly extended by Rovelli.
In short, you are out of your depth both here, and apparently, on many other threads, judging by your 'thumbs score'.

If you weren't so rude, I would have discussed your Rovelli ideas with you, but since you seem to already have decided what you think of my thoughts before I post them based on my 'thumbs score,' I guess it was better that we ended the discussion before it started anyway.
fresco
 
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Reply Fri 20 Sep, 2019 03:06 pm
@livinglava,
Wink
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livinglava
 
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Reply Sat 21 Sep, 2019 07:40 am
Christmas and birthdays = present time.
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Jewels Vern
 
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Reply Sat 5 Oct, 2019 10:59 am
@Beaker17,
Word games.

If your feet touch the ground you have not jumped yet. If your feet do not touch the ground you have already jumped. So does that mean that "jump" is meaningless?

You need to get a fresh grip on reality.
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Ron Buck
 
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Reply Sun 20 Apr, 2025 02:15 pm
@Beaker17,
Present time does exist, if didn't there would be no history. Every thing that happens, takes or happens in time. Consider time as an infinite length of paper. The past has already been written on it. It is blank beyond the present, which is already past as you said. The future is still blank waiting to be written on. If present time did not happen in the past, we would not be able to see a star that is 100 light years away.
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The Anointed
 
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Reply Sun 20 Apr, 2025 03:49 pm
@Ron Buck,
Quote:
Present time does exist,


Not in a singularity old mate.

A singularity is a region of space-time in which matter is crushed so closely together that the gravitational laws explained by general relativity break down. In a singularity, the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite. Scientists believe such a singularity exists at the core of a black hole, which occurs when a super-massive sun reaches the end of its life and implodes.

General relativity also demands such a singularity must exist at the beginning of an expanding universe.

Where there is no space there can be no momentum, where there is no movement over space, there can be no time.
steve reid
 
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Reply Tue 22 Apr, 2025 04:47 am
I tend to think 'the present' is all that exists, it is all that ever did exist and all that ever will exist*, every event that ever happened or ever will happen occurs in the present. It is our perception** in the present that allows us the ideas of a past and future, but they are just that, ideas. Time doesn't flow from the past to the present to the future except as an idea in the mind, there is only now. The brain has the ability to lay down memories (done in the present, thought about later yet always in the present), and contemplate future events (done in the present) which when they come to pass occur in the present.

* If there were no life in the universe to contemplate time perhaps time would not exist at all, at most it would be forever the present
** All our perceptions though real are an interpretation/distortion of that which exists outside our minds, our perceptions don't show us the world as it is, with 'Time' we perceive a multi faceted distortion
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 23 Apr, 2025 08:06 am
@The Anointed,
As you've shut down another thread I'll respond here.

I don't think Jewish people care what Luke said one way or another.

If you need to paste three pages of screed in answer to a simple question you're clearly talking nonsense.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

You are an obscurantist, instead of using clear understandable English you do the opposite.

And you're not very good at it, you're no Marc Anthony and I'm no Lepidus.

I know what a crocodile is.
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