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WTF England?!?!

 
 
Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 09:47 am
Really... you just had your monarch suspend parliament so that the head of state can push through a disastrous separation from Europe. You are making the US look sane.

Whatever you say about the US (and I know many Brits like looking down their noses at us), we still have a working democracy.
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 10:49 am
@maxdancona,
I bet you feel really smug right now.

It's not like any of us support Johnson's move, and it's not over.

If you had a working democracy the person who won the popular vote would be president.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 11:00 am
@maxdancona,
That's what happens when we get an unelected American prime minister.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 12:37 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
we still have a working democracy.


If that were true, among other things, Merrick Garland would be a Supreme Court Justice. It would further mean that 'tush kisser' Billy Barr would not be the Attorney General!

Shall I offer more examples of how Mitchy McConnell has not been doing his job and has had the help of other turncoats in the Senate at erasing as much of our democracy as they can?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 01:42 pm
@Sturgis,
Neither Supreme Court Justice nor Attorney General are democratically elected positions...

... but I get your point I guess.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 01:57 pm
@maxdancona,
I know that.
The point here is that the elected officials have made it their mission to tip everything to the right. As far right as they can get. By reducing to just one party, democracy dies. Then again, that's what oralloy proposes often enough while cackling about eliminating the Democratic Party entirely. You and he must be quite chummy.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 02:23 pm
@Sturgis,
1. Why is it a problem if the elected officials want to "tip everything"? The key word there is "elected". In a democracy elected officials are supposed to have influence.

In England you had the Prime Minister who is appointed (although they had an vote for party leader) using the Queen (who is not elected) to suspend parliament (who is also elected... but is now shut down).

2. The Democratic party is in no threat of being eliminated. Congress has been saying 'no' to Trump as have the courts. For however much you whine, we have three branches of government that are putting checks on each other.

3. I don't see what is wrong with being friendly with Oralloy.

4. I suspect the Republican party is in far more danger politically than the Democrats. Trump is damaging the GOP, my prediction is that the Republican party is going to have real problems in the next few cycles.

fresco
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 01:18 am
@izzythepush,
According to Peston, this is a ploy by Boris to put pressure on the Europeans to negotiate.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 02:21 am
@fresco,
Johnson's problem is he believes his own bullshit, he's always been able to get away with ****. Not now.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 02:23 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

In England


Even when smug you're incredibly stupid.

The country you're looking for is the UK, not England. A fact you've been told numerous times in the past but still struggle to understand.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 11:11 am
@izzythepush,
United Kingdom seems a little optimistic ar this point (let's see what happens in Scotland).
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 11:14 am
@maxdancona,
Still as ignorant and uninformed as ever.

Currently it's the UK, and if you think Wales is about to leave you really have got your head stuck up your arse.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 11:28 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
United Kingdom seems a little optimistic ar this point (let's see what happens in Scotland).
PM Johnson is indeed the head of her Majesty's Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The Scottish Government (the executive in Scotland for areas of public policy which are not reserved) has as leader the First Minister.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 11:51 am
@maxdancona,
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What is the problem....

Occasional or even continued tips to one side or another is not the issue. It's the complete lack of working with the other side of the seesaw and attempting a 'meet up towards the middle' which has become the problem. Especially with the current Senators led along to hell by McConnell.

Surely you are not that dense as to not realize this.

Quote:
I don't see what is wrong with being friendly with Oralloy.

I did not say that is the issue. It's your constantly claiming that you alone are correct about things. Maybe you aren't aware of this.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 11:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
What happens at the Scottish Court of Sessions jut now - perhaps you were referring to that - is that a group of parliamentarians are seeking the Scottish legal equivalent of an injunction to stop parliament being suspended, pending a full hearing on 6 September. (Claim of Right Act 1689)


But since that started already a couple of weeks ago, you are referring perhaps to something else.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 12:23 pm
@Sturgis,
1. I have never once said that I alone am correct. Quite the contrary; I have always made it clear that anyone who agrees with me is correct.

2. McConnell is democratocally elected.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 12:25 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I am worried about Northern Ireland. That peace was hard to come by....
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 12:42 pm
@maxdancona,
I'd thought, you're question "WTF England" was related to Johnson's constitutional maneuvers to prorogue Parliament, and you wanted to see what happens in Scotland.

DUP leader Arlene Foster has welcomed Johnson's decision to seek the suspension of the Westminster parliament. (The Northern Ireland Executive collapsed in 2017, and as of today, the Executive is still vacant.)
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 01:37 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

4. I suspect the Republican party is in far more danger politically than the Democrats. Trump is damaging the GOP, my prediction is that the Republican party is going to have real problems in the next few cycles.

I have to disagree with you here. Who is he damaging the party with? Democrats? People that don't vote Republican anyways?

The Republicans are gonna be fine.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 02:12 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

1. I have never once said that I alone am correct.


How about moderate, centrist, reasonable? Whether or not you implicitly said that you're the only correct one is beside the point. You certainly give the impression that's the case.
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