Hunting or fishing

Nearly everyone else does care about their cars. And what if someone you cared about was killed or paralyzed in an accident with a deer?



So what is your answer for preventing deer from running out into roads?



Reducing the population does indeed reduce the number of deer who run out into roads.

Why is hunting worse than slaughtering an animal in a factory?

Quit hunting "trophy" animals and they will no longer be going extinct.

do you play Warhammer?

No. World of Warcraft. And primarily on classic servers once they launch next week.

That is incorrect. Ending trophy hunting can actually cause extinction, as the fees paid by the hunters are often the only thing funding the conservation that saves these animals.

I would hope that fat **** i made to eat that lion.

Trophy hunting is just the opposite of hunting for food. Usually the trophy is selected by a guide who then spends time baiting or otherwise luring the target. Then the dues come in and whack a breeding bull,
Game animals in trophy herds are getting smallr and smaller by biological studies. They dont match up to those herds pprrotected . (like elephant in Botswana --which just recently liberalized its trophy hunting laws).
I spend time in Maine and because the state's hunting ruls are so damned liberal, they hardly have any trophy sized big bears lwft. The avg bear on a hunt is a boar uner 300 pound s and no bars over 500 lb have been shot since the bait rules were liberalized.

In Pa, we manage the whole statewide bunch of bears and their hunting season (in which licenses and tags are carefully controlled by game stats). So, the size of the animals has actually gone up and the bear population i grown.

Now, most bears are eaten by our huntrs in Pa (taxidermy is dying here), unless someone gets on of these 700 lb + godzillas.

Now, the only problem with letting the bears be managed for maximizing the population is that the CWD from deer may be spreading to bers.(Its a prion diseased like Mad Cow, cept its not (yet) transmissible to humans. That could change if the disease keeps hopping species and gets closer to our HARIF gene segment via some horizontal transfer . Then such things as trophy hunting of CWD infected species, incuding cervids, will be out for good because we would be part of a gene pool susceptible to CWD. Hope it never happens but its happened before.(Thats how Ebola and AIds began)

I agree with Oralloy on this thread.

First of all If you eat meat, you should be willing to kill it yourself. If people think that meat comes naturally wrapped in plastic in your local grocery store case, it is easier to ignore the fact that it came from a living animal.

I take my kids fishing for this exact reason. My daughter went to farm school where she watched them kill a pig. The bacon was fantastic (and yes, I ate some).

Hunting is part of life. It is something that humans share with lion, sharks and wolves... it brings us closer to nature and put us more in touch with life.

WTF does she do with a dead giraffe?? Maybe make a chiefs robe eh? What the fuckin point if she doesnt eat it?? She just wastd a life for absolutely no reason other than self aggrandizing "look at me and how amazing I am"
If we want to trophy hunt, dont outweigh the odds against the animals. Hunt em with a 50 cal revolver witha 6" barrel. That takes balls. The most daring thing the chunky monkey and the giraffe killer did was fly on a plane over there.

And you've had lion, when?

Or giraffe?

I would have no problem eating giraffe (other than the issue of conservation). I don't know why... but I have more of an emotional reaction to eating lion. I don't see any moral reason... but I am not always rational.

Humans should be very conscious of threatening endangered species. I will eat goose, I would not eat a bald eagle. And the more intelligent animals seem like they should be protected... dolphins for example, although pigs are allegedly pretty intelligent, so maybe this isn't a valid distinction.

Animals are not human beings. That is why it is OK for us to kill and eat them.

So, as you are missing the whole point of the thread, killing animals for sport is wrong. Is your stance to say it's ok to kill lions, tigers, giraffes and other endangered animals because the sport of the kill is more important?

That's not the whole point of this thread. The OP is clearly arguing that hunting for food is wrong.

That said, why is trophy hunting wrong?

And is trophy hunting wrong when it is the only thing that prevents a species from going entirely extinct?

But why you want to kill more when you don t neeed to ? Of course because it s fun for who like shooting targets

"going xtinct' based on trophy hunting isnt the biggest issue. Market hunting for "bushmeat and Ivory or tusks"are the big drivers. If we just keep the **** away and just use animals for sport hunting for food based on good game management would keep spcies vital . Weve seen how natural control methods can restore natural carrying capacity and then hunting for food can be a great sport and providing great flavored meats.
Trophy hunting IS responsible for declines of species variability. Weve demonstrated how Black bars (ven though they are about at poplations not too far below pre colonial days), they are substantially smaller because weve removd the "trophy blacks" for spirit skulls, jaw bone fetishes, claws, hide and canines and bile ducts an gall bladders).

I don't see anything inherently wrong with hunting for sport, as long as the animal is plentiful. There are lots of other predators (besides humans) who hunt for sport. It is part of nature. There are also prey species that have evolved to required a predator... they get sick and weak if there are no predators.

I do believe it is wrong to kill endangered animals.

Why?

It is for the animals that get wiped out of existence when trophy hunting no longer funds their conservation.

Part of nature killing for sports lol