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What are examples of bent rulers?

 
 
Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 10:50 am
Is there such a thing?

How can something "bent" measure accurately if pi is an indefinite repeating decimal?

...and, are there only so many possible combinations of 10 digits before there would have to be a repeating pattern to pi?

and, what happens when you round pi to the nearest point? Using that model do circles gravitate towards becoming unround?

 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 12:13 pm
Does the pi decimal exist because somehow a bent ruler is involved.

...that the act of observing something "bent" somehow warps space and time?

It seems that within this anomaly, all of everything that is exists.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 01:29 pm
The process of bending a ruler splays its coordinates in a way that becomes exponentially complicated to calculate.

What are examples of bent rulers?

Well I have tried to give you hints but no one seems able to respond as if I had asked you all a riddle. I did. Smile

No one can name a bent ruler?

lol
fresco
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 01:29 pm
@TheCobbler,
I have a 'flexible ruler' which can be bent to fit a curved graph like a parabola. Lengths of such curves are rarely required but could be found using this.

Pi is an irrational number which by definition does not repeat any pattern of digits. In fact, I seem to remember that the digits of pi can be used as an approximation to a 'random number generator' for statistical purposes.

Rounding pi simply alters the accuracy of circle parameters like circumference or area.

Not sure what you mean by 'gravitate to unround'.

Not a clue what 'riddle' has to do with it.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 01:33 pm
If you answered, "Donald Trump", you might be correct but not the answer I am looking for. lol
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 03:25 pm
@TheCobbler,
It is annoying people misuse the word "exponentially".
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 05:33 pm
Some examples of bent rulers:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/14/13/17569532000005DC-3038298-Richard_III_s_skeleton_found_under_a_car_park_in_Leicester_was_f-a-11_1429015613224.jpg
First, we have Richard III who ruled England 1483-death
Quote:
He has been painted by history as a wicked hunchback, but Richard III kept the disease that curved his spine secret throughout his life, a historian has claimed.

The last Plantagenet king of England was described by William Shakespeare as a 'poisonous hunch-back'd toad' in his play depicting the monarch.

But research on the king's skeleton discovered under a council car park in Leicester revealed that this may have been an exaggeration of a spine deformity known as scoliosis.


http://cdn3.craftsy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMG_69741.jpg
This example is used in the fashion industry
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Anyone who makes clothing knows garment alterations are a normal part of the sewing process. As such, rulers are used to make adjustments wherever they may be.

But, since our bodies are built with an abundance of curves, typical straight rulers often can’t get the job done right.


https://doodlums.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/18-Inch-_-45cm-Flexible-Curve.jpg
This bendy ruler is great for artists.
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Capturing the exact measurements of a curve with a regular ruler is almost impossible. Drawing a perfect curve or series of curves by hand can be unbalanced. The answer is a bendy ruler or flexible drawing curve.

A flexible curve ruler helps to create perfect curvatures in a single smooth stroke. No extra set of hands needed, no extra tools required. It conforms to the shape in which you bend it. It maintains its shape until you straighten it.

You can make perfect circles, evenly balanced triangles, straight lines, arches, and more easily and quickly. Designed in various lengths, you can use it for large, medium, and small projects. Why have multiple tools that may not always deliver accurate results or be bulky and difficult to use? Flexible curve rulers are easy to shape, and simple to use. Bend it, and trace it. That’s all there is to it.


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81dEQtC7APL._SS500_.jpg
This music album is entitled "Bent Rulers" Not necessarily an example, but is pertinent to the conversation.
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Kyle bent has all the right ingredients to become a huge success for many years to come. He's young, charismatic, and intelligent and it all pours out over each song in this album. I heard about this artist from a friend a few months back and I've been following his career ever since and everything just seems to get better and better which is exactly what you want to see from an artist. Being that he is only 16, it's safe to say he hasn't even hit his full stride yet...which is kinda scary. I think this kid might be part of the future of hip-hop and who knows, one day he might be able to etch his name amongst some of the greatest. BUY THIS ALBUM. YOU WON'T REGRET IT!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Doa9FXfXUAETNrZ.jpg

This ruler was not bendy.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 5 Apr, 2019 06:50 pm
Thank you both Fresco and McGentrix for your clever responses. They were a good read.
Although you have indeed named some bent rulers one seems to have still eluded you.
I thought this would be easier to guess. Lol
So, without further ado, fanfare please and drum roll!

https://www.pyramidtimesystems.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/a/face-type-e-ctp-12-hour-13in-silver_web_5.jpg

The answer is time.

We bend a ruler to calculate time and this is why time is never precisely measured.

We bend time back upon itself so that the future is always past and the future is nothing but anticipation of the past.

And where the two worlds meet, there is where your cipher lies in zero time where the old is purged and rebirth begins anew.

Thus we measure time with a bent ruler.

Use this to your advantage. Smile
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 12:08 am
@TheCobbler,
There's a lot more to the concept of 'time' beyond any simplistic analogy about attempting to measure it with a ruler. For example, in Rovelli's book 'The Order of Time', he points out that 'before' is to 'after' as 'up' is to 'down', i.e. what we call 'causes and effects' are not universally ordered but depend on observer reference frames. This in turn deflates the concept of 'causality' which has major repercussions for what we call 'understanding'.

It's all good fun!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 08:55 am
@TheCobbler,
Plenty of bent rulers out there, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Mohammed Bin Salman, it goes on and on.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 09:43 am
@fresco,
I am curious how this deflates the concept of causality. You stub your toe, you experience pain. General relativity has zero impact on our daily experience.
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 10:18 am
@maxdancona,
Causality is generally considered to involved 'cause' preceding 'effect' but if that event sequence becomes observer dependent it is problematic from a universal pov unless you allow teleological explanation as well. The transcendent position (philosophically) is to delimit causality to be a useful psychological construct, like 'time' itself. (NB Bertrand Russell argued that 'causality' should be excluded from scientific explanation)
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 6 Apr, 2019 10:19 am
@maxdancona,
General relativity expands the powers of the mind similarly as it expands our universe.

How we manipulate light and, nuclear energy would not exist if relativity was untrue...

General relativity has a great "impact" on our lives and how we perceive and live them.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:16 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:
...and, are there only so many possible combinations of 10 digits before there would have to be a repeating pattern to pi?

The numbers in pi do not start to repeat a pattern.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:38 am
@Brandon9000,
I wanna return to the
Gold standard
Pi is 3.0000
A second is Ephemeris Based. **** yer ground states of Cesium 133
Ships should be made of wood
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 12:42 am
@farmerman,
Is this close enough to measure a tree trunk?


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fresco
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 01:50 am
@maxdancona,
'Everyday experience'is synonymous with 'useful psychological construct'. Einstein's and subsequent considerations of 'time' tend to be counter-intuitive {as in differential aging scenario} and that is where 'causality' because less useful. For example, many equations in physics are 'time symmetric'. Citing the increasing entropy principle as giving a universal 'direction of time' glosses over the point that 'order' is observer defined.



TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:30 am
@farmerman,
Yes Farmerman, it will measure a tree trunk just fine but is it quantized enough to measure a quark or a light photon? Give or take a decimal or two? Smile

...and what exactly are the properties of a quark?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 11:37 am
@fresco,
Do water droplets and snowflakes have feelings? Smile

Can the flapping of butterfly wings change the world?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 7 Apr, 2019 02:05 pm
@TheCobbler,
I know but two things 'bout the quark
but one of them is rather dark
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