A "What Did You Think Today" Digression!

Jerry R!

GET UP AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!


Awwwww, did I wakums up?

What did I think today ?

I know, I'll drive 200 miles round trip to work, I'll work a 14 hour day ( slight divertissement with cyber pals at a2k notwithstanding), I'll leave nice and early to miss the weekend rush- oh yeh better yet I'll have a flat on the way home, be left waiting for an hour at the tyre fitting place whilst I replace the flat, then better yet get stuck in a 10 mile tail jam due to idiots driving like morons causing an accident which then makes my normally 2 hour journey up to 3 and a bit hours. Oh yeh then maybe I'll do something like sink the best part of a bottle of Chateauneuf du Pape.

Hey - there's always tomorrow >X#-[

200 MILES round trip! That is like living in outback OZ! Por quoi?

Por The old Moolah - you stickybeak you :*

yes - I am a stickybeak - so kill me! I am just not accustomed to hearing tales of such trip intrepitued from our Brit cousins!

That is what I think, anyway. Do you do it every day?

I have not thought anything much yet today - too early on Sunday morning for that.

I think I might have a coffee soon.

I wonder is anyone in chat?

Timber and I are in chat right now - if anyone is interested

Harrrrummmppphhh!!! Turned up about a hour later, and chatted amongst myself!

I am thinking that I have just clarified for myself, in metaphor, why I am so irritated with so much of the talk about the war.

Now, do not expect anything new or different, because it is the most passe insight couched in an overdone metaphor - but it has just encapsulated for me a major irksomeness.

Let it be faced, we are all, in some ways, like ants living in our own greater and lesser ant colonies. Once upon a time, we lived in little colonies called clans - then we gathered together in larger affiliations known as tribes - then we gradually developed - or some of us did - into ginormous clumps called nation states, which sometimes clump together into even larger, and notoriously unstable groups called alliances or federations or whatever. Sometimes the nation states move the other way, and reform into tribes and such-like. It seems big clumps take a lot of practice to maintain in stability...

It is my view that, for those of us living in the whoppers, we still form clans and tribes - but I digress - anyway, somehow, we managed to stretch our strong tendency to defend ourselves and our clans into a tendency to defend our nation states - and even alliances - (we all know what happens when you kick an ant's nest, and now, it seems, we are able to respond to kicks a long way away - or even to kicks we believe might happen in the future - or at least such kicks that our leaders believe in, and can convince us of.)

We have also managed to stretch our tendency to want what our neighbours have, or to be irritated by them, over long distances, too. What a species!

Anyway, being human - (though one has to wonder what our cousins, the chimps, are saying to themselves about THEIR neighbours, with whom they feud, and on whom they sometimes practice genocide - or panocide) we seem to feel the need to work ourselves up, when we defend or prey, by dressing our actions up in noble and abstract sounding words and emotions - "Lebensraum", "the Jewish conspiracy" "manifest destiny" "the spread of British civilization" "liberating the oppressed workers" "restoring freedom" "ridding the world of terrorism and liberating the Iraqui people" "defending Islam from the Infidels" etc.

Now, I have no quarrel with boiling up and defending my nest, especially if it is really being threatened, and I am not being manipulated into believing it is - I DO have a quarrel with endless pep talks about how my nest is better and nobler and cleaner and more democratic and envied by all the other nests who want to destroy it because they envy it it, and suchlike, nor do I see any particular nobility and glory in the process of defending the thing. This is not to say that I do not think the defenders are individually heroic and wonderful and all that - I hope that I can be those things if I have to be, if my nest gets attacked successfully, and someone as old and unfit as I am has to fight - and I would do it - but I hope I wouldn't be telling myself any silly lies in the process - just as I have not done so when I have had to fight to defend myself as an individual when I have been assaulted. But I do not believe I would defend it because I, or it, am especially noble and wonderful, but because it is what ants - and others do - when threatened.

We almost all think our nest is the best - secretly or publicly - some countries having more of a tendency to share their self-opinion widely and irritatingly than others - just as we all tend to see ourselves as better than others. This is a natural human thing, but not the stuff of reality or rational pride. I, of course, share the prejudices of my nest and its allies - but I am not fooled (generally, I do slip!!!!!!) into thinking my prejudices are true and noble things - (except, of course, the ones which ARE!! heehee)

I can't stand cant - and there is so much ridiculous cant happening that I am sick - I am an anti-cant ant!!! If you won't stop the war - at least stop the crap. Please...

(Of course, this is an extreme presentation of my view - but there you are - it needed to get out!)


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WOW-Debs what a rant from the OZ ant can't help but commant-here goes !

I get annoyed that as individuals we can all get along and if we independently met some nice Iraq people we would probably like them. The small amount of nasty Iraq people are probably about the same as the small amount of nasty Oz, Brit, American etc. people.

Its just that when the specific gets to the general it all seems to go wrong somehow, there's all this positioning and politicking and if you're not for us you're agin' us crap.

Around 70% + of UK folk don't want war, however the vast majority wanted Hussein sorted out 12 years ago and it was almost certainly a politically and commercially expedient decision not to do so then, when it would have made the most obvious sense to have done so.

Now with the lever of 911 all manner of unseen enemies can be focussed on without fear of reprisals, or so they thought. I think generally the US adminsitration have been surprised at the groundswell of anti-war opinion and the latest retrenchment for overdue consideration of the Palestinina question smacks to me of them at last listening to Tony Blair, who has been haranguing for this for some time.

So government by the people for the people does not seem to exist and it is my fear that this increasingly jingoistic US administration may eventually bring us all into a third world war scenario.

I've had lots of thoughts this morning and in the end it all SUCKS

#1 it's sunday ? true
#2 do I need to get up yet ? no
#3 are you sure ? yes, no I'd better get up coz I want a mug of tea and that means going to the kitchen and my baccy and rolling papers are somewhere not far from my PC. Then I thought my Zippo is empty so that means, oh sod it, I think I'll stay in bed a bit longer. Oh sod it again, the bathroom>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...

C.C. to sucks thread

Nothing sucks seeds like a seed sucker -LOL- stay in bed olden tomorrow can wait

To late, the die is cast. Lady wife is threatening retribution and has uttered the magic words -------- SUPERMARKET & GARDENING

Oh that's cruel

Cruel? I'll show you cruel! It is MONDAY morning here!

I bet it's not snowing though

Nopies - gonna be HOT. Last heatwave of summer, I think.

Hey Deb,

You got ants!? Have you tried one of those spray things? A problem with the cats. Uhm, how about some poison in some cat unreachable places?

Sorry. I know you don't have ants. But I couldn't help myself. I'm working on a project that is making me goofy.

Aside from ants, what am I thinking about today? I'm thinking that I wish it was tomorrow. There will be a large, long, loud parade here in the Big Apple, which I'm sure is green for the occasion--maybe a granny smith. This parade, as do many others, end where I live. NOISE.

Not much else on my mind. I don't do much deep thinking on Mondays. You mentioned genocide among chimps. True. They also commit homocide--and cannibalism. Our closest relatives!

So like us that it is spooky!

I would prefer to see us as like the gentle, sexually charged bonobo - the chimp's other species. They use sex as the social glue of their civilisation, the ice-breaker, the knitter up of the ravelled sleeve of care, the repairer of rifts, the panaceae of aggression and hostility.

They, truly, make love, not war.

I do not believe they practice rowdiness and other frightfulnesses upon St Patrick's Day, neither.

If only Bush & Saddam would just make babies, not bullets. ......err, I mean...um..nevermind

I am not entirely sure that my imagination was bettered by THAT one, Monger!

"Apothecary! An ounce of civet to sweeten my imagination!"

I shall never have sex again.....