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Sun 17 Apr, 2005 01:14 pm
I'm having some trouble with this question. Would someone mind explaining it for me? I'd greatly appreciate that. Thank you.
1) Double theta so that the side opposite it connects the centers of adjacent circles. There will be n such segments.
2*theta = 360/n
theta = 180/n
2) The triangle in the sketch is right because the radius (side r) is perpendicular to the tangent.
sin(theta) = r/(R+r)
R*sin(theta) + r*sin(theta) = r
R*sin(theta) = r*(1 - sin(theta))
R/r = (1 - sin(theta))/sin(theta)
3) Since the triangle is right,
r^2 + (R+x)^2 = (R+r)^2
x^2 + 2Rx - 2Rr = 0
x = sqrt(R^2 + 2Rr) - R
4) From (3) you have an expression for x in terms of R and r. From (2) you have an expression for r in terms of R and theta. From (1) you have an expression for theta in terms of n. Combine them, and plug 4, 6, and 12 into the resulting expression.
5) You want r<R. From (2) sin(theta) < 1 - sin(theta). Figure out how large theta can be (larger theta implies fewer surrounding circles). From (1) you can compute n.
I come up with the same solution as markr. But to elaborate
on 4) I'd substitute
R=r*sin(180/n)/[1-sin(180/n)]
into
x=sqrt(R^2+2rR)-2R
to get x in terms of R and n
x=R{sqrt[(1+sin(180/n))/(1-sin(180/n))]-2}
& 5)
set r=R and solve for n
or 1=[1-sin(180/n)]/ sin(180/n)
sin(180/n)=1-sin(180/n)
sin(180/n)=1/2
180/n-asin(1/2)=30
n=180/30=6
do for outer circles to be the same size as the inner n=6. If the outer circles are smaller n>6.
Rap
Thanks alot for your help. Could you prehaps just elaborate on question 4? I see your reasoning here but putiing it in question form 4.1 -> 4.3
Would you just substitute the values 4,6 and 12 into:
x = R(sqrt)[(1+sin(180/n))/(1-sin(180/n))]-2}
plug in 4, 6, and 12 for n into
x=R{sqrt[(1+sin(180/n))/(1-sin(180/n))]-2}
Rap
quick question, wouldn't 6 ensure that they're all the exact same size as the center one? wouldn't you need seven or more to ensure that they're smaller?
Yep. And Rap's calculations confirm it.
Yeah. n=6 therefor n>7 so 7 is the maximum value I believe.
Thanks for all the input anyway.