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What is the shape of a catenary locus ?

 
 
Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 02:56 pm
Hello.
It's been over 30 years since my days at the university and have trouble thinking...

A parabola reflects all the axial rays converging to a focus. A focus is a point. A single point. Not a locus area.
If the reflector is a catenary, where do the axial rays converge to ?
Cannot be a point as the curve is different. What is its shape ? Is it a line, is it a circle, is it an ellipse locus ?

If the above is not clear enough; in other words :

A catenary reflector has a focal area -locus- instead of a focus point as a parabolic reflector has.

Is it a circle ? Is it a line ?

The intention is to place a pipe of the same section and shape as the locus at the locus of a catenary reflector trough, to be insolated and boil water circulating in it.
The catenary lenght (span) is 4 feet.
What would be the correct catenary depth for the locus to be centered between the ends of the catenary ?

Thanks, Confused
Miguel
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Reply Wed 6 Apr, 2005 12:53 am
It seems to me that the reflected rays either converge (to a point), or they don't (at all). Sounds like you want the y-intercept of the center and the diameter of the smallest circle (simplest pipe) that will intercept all of the reflected rays.

This site:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Catenary.html
describes the equation for the catenary and the tangential angle. Since you have a particular catenary in mind, it might not be difficult to figure out the optimal pipe size and position with some test rays.

There's a PDF at this site:
http://ao.osa.org/ViewMedia.cfm?id=21840&seq=0
But, you have to pay for it.
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Reply Fri 8 Apr, 2005 01:21 am
Unless I screwed something up, I think this is close to what you want:

width: 48"
depth: ~11.4"
pipe: 1.5" diameter centered ~12" above the bottom of the catenary
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