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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 10:42 am
@Olivier5,
They did indeed. Frankly we had better working relations with the French military than the British, though the French usually wanted to keep the cooperation invisible. I often found French attitudes and outlook to be much more similar to our own that those of the British - we both think that we are the center of the world and that everyone should speak as we do.

About five years earlier, soon after the simultaneous 1983 Beirut bombings of the barracks of French and U.S. forces in Lebanon, I was an Air Wing commander on a carrier in the Mediterranean, and we, without any fanfare or notice, started joint operations with the Air wing on Clemenceau, Joining up their Etendards & Mirages with our A-6,A-7 and F-14 aircraft for coordinated rendezvous, tanking communications exercises - all then very unusual. I was the flight leader and, later learned these were rehearsals for a joint retaliatory strike. After two such drills we were ready to go, awaiting only specific targets.

At the last minute, as we joined up at sea for a prestrike joint briefing onboard our ship , our political leaders pulled out of the plan saying (to us) that they had no targets that reliably included the perpetrators. I still recall my French counterpart's reaction "c'est une question d'honneur" he said with dismay.

The French a week later went ahead with their own attack. We should have been with them.

Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 11:10 am
@georgeob1,
Thanks for the info. It appears the US and French navies have been close for some time, then... I was aware of the French pilots training to operate off the US carrier George H.W. Bush in May 2018, as a fully integrated air wing. That was cool.

https://news.usni.org/2018/04/30/33210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duL_95-OLug

Quote:
"c'est une question d'honneur"

There's this story going around French marine circles (don't know if it's true) about a French navy captain being captured by his English adversary, back in the days. The British captain complains that the French fight only for money, while he boasts that the British fight for honor.

The French captain responds: "We all fight for what we lack."
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 11:37 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

There's this story going around French marine circles (don't know if it's true) about a French navy captain being captured by his English adversary, back in the days. The British captain complains that the French fight only for money, while he boasts that the British fight for honor.

The French captain responds: "We all fight for what we lack."


Nasty but very French.
We had to study the French British naval wars of the 16th & 17th centuries extensively at Annapolis. I recall that the French Admirals tended to have beautiful sounding names, like Surcouf, de Galissonniere, de Grasse, etc. while their British opponents had rather guttural, harsh sounding names, like Jarvis, Hawke, Howe, Hood, etc. French gunnery was then superior to the British as well: the French had longer range cannon and shot to dismast their opponents. In contrast the British fired at close range into the hulls of their opponents to cause as much carnage as possible. The hell of it was that the Brit's usually won: some of the best built ships in the Royal Navy were French prizes.

Histories of the American Revolution don't, in my view, sufficiently recognize the brilliance and daring of French Admiral De Grasse in taking the French fleet, on short notice from their base in the Caribbean, through the Bahamas channel so close to hurricane season, to assure victory at Yorktown.. He arrived on scene to block the Chesapeake Bay well before the British thought possible, thereby isolating Gen Cornwallis in the last, and decisive major battle of the Revolution. The American/French army surrounding him there was led by Washington and Gen Rochambeau.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 12:16 pm
@georgeob1,
The quote is actually attributed to Surcouf, after he captured a British crew rather than vice versa as I had it.

Surcouf who made his entire career in the Indian ocean. Back to Mauritius, long a French outpost.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 12:34 pm
@georgeob1,
The British have always been better at sea than the French, a few exceptions here or there notwistanding.

Chesapeake Bay... the name of this joint airwing exercise on the USS Bush was "Chesapeake 2018". I suppose it's an annual or biennial event.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 12:55 pm
@Olivier5,
I didn't know that but suspect the name was purposeful.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2019 01:53 pm
@georgeob1,
Of course, it's no coincidence.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Thu 14 Mar, 2019 02:01 pm
@Olivier5,
Murder Trial To Proceed Against 2nd Woman In Killing Of Kim Jong Un's Half-Brother
https://i.imgur.com/PgLP4qH.jpg
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 8 Apr, 2019 02:45 pm
Bundestag member Markus Frohnmaier accused of running for Putin by Der Spiegel, citing documents from the Kremlin that shows ties between Moscow and extreme right party AfD.

https://magazin.spiegel.de/SP/2019/15/163282633/index.html
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 11:52 am
A fire has broken out at the famous Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris.

The cause of the blaze was not immediately clear, but officials say that it could be linked to renovation work.

Images on social media show plumes of smoke billowing into the air above the 850-year-old Gothic building.

Last year, the Catholic Church in France launched an urgent appeal for funds to save the cathedral, which was starting to crumble.

A major operation is under way to tackle the blaze, which broke out on Monday afternoon. An area surrounding the building in central Paris has been cleared, officials said.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 11:56 am
@Olivier5,
I've watch BFM for (other) news when that terrible alerte info came up.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 11:59 am
@Walter Hinteler,
C'est horrible.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 12:04 pm
@Olivier5,
Seems to be the repair works were the reason, according to La brigade de sapeurs-pompiers de Paris. (I'd thought that when I noticed the scaffolds)
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 12:08 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Absolutely tragic.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 12:10 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
https://i.imgur.com/hSZZoTl.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 12:51 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Today is the World Art Day/Journée de l'art mondiale ... and Frech firefighters got special lectures about the problems of an intervention in case of fire ...

https://i.imgur.com/blQNLSn.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 01:30 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The French expression « On ne va pas attendre 107 ans » ("We won't wait 107 years") dates back to the time of the construction of Notre-Dame de Paris.

Begun in 1163 under the direction of the Bishop of Sully, a first stage of construction was completed around 1250. The second extends until the middle of the 14th century. But many important renovations are still being done. Like the one made by Viollet-le-Duc in the 19th century for more than ten years. Finally, it may be a work in progress that will never stop... .... because unfortunately the statu quo is worse than in the pic below ...

https://i.imgur.com/hrjPpxp.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 15 Apr, 2019 01:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The fire brigade is not sure if they can stop the spread to the north belfry
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 27 Apr, 2019 01:35 am
https://www.courrierinternational.com/sites/ci_master/files/styles/image_original_765/public/assets/images/chappatte_2019-04-19-5175.jpg
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 29 Apr, 2019 11:01 am
@Olivier5,
Quick favor to ask Olivier. Can you tag this thread "News", it's a pain in the tuchas to find it. I have to chase your profile page down and scroll through your topics page to locate it and post to it. Thanks.

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