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Latin american writers and books

 
 
Pantalones
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2005 12:37 am
I'm sorry to say I can't add much to this thread. I'm taking the learning side on this one and I thank fbaezer for taking time to write what he wrote.

I have some reading to do.
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smog
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2005 03:10 am
I've said all over this forum in many places that Borges is the greatest author in history, and I'll probably continue to believe that for the rest of my life.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2005 10:53 am
By the way, the building containing the downtown Sanborn's was the Palace of the self-declared Emperor, Iturbide, I think.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 15 Mar, 2005 11:17 am
This morning I remember that we've talked about Sanborn's before, JL, unless it is dejavu repeating itself.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 06:59 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Another brilliant writer is Paulo Coelho from Brazil.
One of his books "The Alchemist" is such a joy to read,
or "By the river Piedra I sat down and wept".


I haven't read Coelho.
He's considered here a best-seller, very commercial author.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:02 pm
ossobuco wrote:
No, I lied apparently. My Sanborn's was the one by the Zona Rosa. I guess we didn't pass in the day in the sixties.


There are more than 100 Sanborns.

Osso, you enjoyed the Zona Rosa at its peak, in mythical times.
Now it's somewhat decayed (but the place to go if you're gay).
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:08 pm
husker wrote:
fbaezer What do you think of che Guevara? and the story in Motorcycle Diaries?


There a nice old thread about the film.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33517&highlight=

I haven't read the book.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:10 pm
fbaezer,

Thanks for an interesting and informative topic. I'll consult your recommendations for my reading over the next few months. Any man with a taste for Dom Camillo shouldn't be ignored in such matters.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:17 pm
ossobuco wrote:
That's the Autonoma, right? (I visited the autonoma in guadalajara, at least the med school).


HERESY!!!!!!

Two VERY DIFFERENT Universities.

Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM)

Public.
National.
Founded in the XVI Century.
Non religious.
Universal (mostly liberal).
Ranked by both UK and Chinese experts as one of the top 200 world universities and as the best in Latin America.
Three Nobel Prize winners.
Teachers like Yáñez.
JL Nobody's wife, my wife, my sons and myself studied there.


Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara (UAG)

Private.
Local.
Founded by the extreme right wing in response to the center-left Universidad de Guadalajara.
Religious. Catholic tradicionalists.
It's supposed to be better than average only on two disciplines: Medicine and Business Administration.

A typical UNAM graduate and a typical UAG graduate are like oil and water.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:29 pm
JLNobody wrote:
I can say that she remembers very fondly her graduate studies in Mexico (classical languages), especially the Spanish intellectuals who blessed Mexico when they were chased out Spain by Franco.


Yes, that was a blessing JLNobody.

When the falangists in Spain cried, loudly, "Death to Intelligence!", the intelligence fled. And Mexico got the best part. From Buñuel, to León Felipe, to many teachers in all fields of knowledge.
I was blessed with a couple of Spanish refugee teachers in high school (literature), another two in college (economics) and, mostly, the parents and grandparents of some of my schoolmates, and their afterdinner talk.

One of the more prestigious universities here is El Colegio de México, formerly El Colegio de España.
My two sons went to grade school and High school to Colegio Madrid, founded by the Spanish Socialist refugees (not a good school to learn English, but among the very best for anything else, specially math and science: they passed ultrahandily their entrance exam to UNAM).
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:32 pm
JLNobody wrote:
That was in 1955-56, when I studied at San Carlos (painting) and UNAM (music). But over the years I gravitated to that haunting place regularly.


So you are also a puma! Very Happy

¡Goooya!
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:40 pm
JLNobody wrote:
By the way, the building containing the downtown Sanborn's was the Palace of the self-declared Emperor, Iturbide, I think.


Nope. You're about one and a half blocks wrong.

Palacio de Iturbide:

http://www.casaimperial.org/pics/Palacio%20Iturbide.jpg


Casa de los Azulejos (Sanborns):

http://www.theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~lmoeller/fotos/mexico/0012mexciu06_th.jpg
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:43 pm
fbaezer wrote:
ossobuco wrote:
That's the Autonoma, right? (I visited the autonoma in guadalajara, at least the med school).


HERESY!!!!!!

Two VERY DIFFERENT Universities.

Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM)

Public.
National.
Founded in the XVI Century.
Non religious.
Universal (mostly liberal).
Ranked by both UK and Chinese experts as one of the top 200 world universities and as the best in Latin America.
Three Nobel Prize winners.
Teachers like Yáñez.
JL Nobody's wife, my wife, my sons and myself studied there.


Universidad Autónoma de Guadalajara (UAG)

Private.
Local.
Founded by the extreme right wing in response to the center-left Universidad de Guadalajara.
Religious. Catholic tradicionalists.
It's supposed to be better than average only on two disciplines: Medicine and Business Administration.

A typical UNAM graduate and a typical UAG graduate are like oil and water.



OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH!
very interesting to know now.
Puts new light on old Sergio...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:44 pm
So many Sanborn's, so little time....
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:53 pm
To explain Sergio, he was the boyfriend of a friend of mine, and part of our group for a time in Los Angeles. My pals all went off to Europe without me, for six months, experiencing much for lifelong tales, including the Florence flood of '66.
But Sergio stayed home and so did I, and I helped him by typing - and fixing bits of grammar - on his UCLA grad thesis on why much of the southwest US rests rightfully as part of Mexico. His text was pretty convincing, though I didn't read it that closely, typing away in a hurry as I was - convincing enough to have me question my blanket childlike view of the southwest history. I knew his view would be arguable back, just found it a personal wake-up. Anyway, he went to the Autonoma in Guadalajara.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:54 pm
ossobuco wrote:

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH!
very interesting to know now.
Puts new light on old Sergio...


Now I'm intrigued.
Who's Sergio?

(any tecolín is a closet ultraconservative)
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 07:59 pm
the query is answered
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 08:04 pm
What's a tecolin? Thinking owl....
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 08:08 pm
Guessing a tecolin is someone who wants part of the now US back. Hmmm. His girlfriend, a long time friend of mine, part of the SAGs, smartass group, is pretty much my direct opposite re opinions. We just happen to have a 45 year association and are glad to see each other when we do.

An illuminating tangent for me, and sorry if I've derailed the thread more than usual.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Mar, 2005 09:04 pm
thread is completely derailed.

a tecolín is peyorative for UAG student.

tecos was a extreme-right organization who used to control that school

never trust extreme nationalism, osso
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