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False flag operation in Syria?

 
 
Lash
 
Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 09:45 am
Why would Assad or Russia murder a community in Syria on the heels of Trump announcing he was ready to pull the US out of the region?

...with chemicals that always put the world on high alert?

Nobody’s that stupid.

It seems strongly that forces within our government are responsible for Douma.

What do you think?
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 09:50 am
So to be clear, we’re being asked by these people to believe that Bashar al-Assad launched a “mass casualty chemical attack”, the thing which would provoke the wrath of the US war machine, just as Trump was seeking a withdrawal from Syria and just as Assad was approaching victory in Douma. We are being asked to ignore the fact that the area is crawling with actual, literal terrorists, to ignore the western empire’s extensive history of using lies, propaganda and false flags to manufacture support for military aggression, to ignore the extremely suspicious western funding and terrorist ties of the White Helmets who are circulating these photos and information, and to ignore the fact that Syria has been a target of imperialist regime change for many years. We are being asked to ignore all that and believe instead that Assad spontaneously began acting against his own self-interest so that he could kill children for no discernible reason.
It says so much about the power of western media psyops that this has a strong chance of being believed.
There have been reports from the Russian government in the last few weeks claiming they have received intel that the US and its terrorist lackeys in Syria are preparing a major chemical weapons attack in southern Syria for the purposes of implicating Assad. Since a major chemical weapons attack in southern Syria appears to be what we are seeing, this could mean one of two things: either the Russians and Syrians just really, really wanted to kill some babies and planted a preemptive narrative to blame the US for it, or there was indeed a false flag planned and carried out by terrorist forces in some degree of coordination with the US government.
This is still early on, and it remains to be seen where this is headed, but I wanted to sound the alarm now for all the clear-eyed rebels out there in case this is used as justification for a NATO military campaign against the Syrian government. The western empire has been trying to get its talons into Iraq’s next-door neighbor for a long time now, and it appears to have set up the most sophisticated psyops campaign in modern history to advance that agenda.


https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/new-syrian-chemical-weapons-attack-being-reported-by-all-the-usual-suspects-bb52e9a4f982
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 09:57 am
I have read that our military opposes any Trump plan to get out of Syria. Why not? They've got a blank check to attack just about anywhere.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:16 am
@edgarblythe,
I know. It’s horrific to think that entities in our government are likely responsible.

Russia has been warning about a chemical attack (by us and our proxies) for a couple of weeks, but this anti-Russia narrative has really come together masterfully to cloak our dirty hands.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:21 am
Here is a piece of the story. Reader beware.

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2018/03/14/russian-claims-that-us-is-planning-a-false-flag-chemical-weapons-attack-is-a-distraction-pentagon-says/

Russian claims that US is planning a false-flag chemical weapons attack is a distraction, Pentagon says
By: Kyle Rempfer   March 13

Smoke billows following a reported air strike in the rebel-held parts of the Jobar district, on the eastern outskirts of the Syrian capital Damascus, on June 18, 2017.(Amer Almohibany/AFP/Getty Images)

On Tuesday, Russian officials claimed that militants are preparing to use chemical agents in Syria, and intend to put the blame on the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, according to Tass, a state-run news agency in Russia.

Russian Army Gen. Valery Gerasimov said that the United States is planning to then use the chemical attack as a way to "furnish the so-called ‘evidence’ of the alleged mass civilian deaths through the fault of the Syrian government and the Russian leadership supporting it."
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 10:37 am
Believable sources of information are getting harder to find.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 11:19 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Why would Assad or Russia murder a community in Syria on the heels of Trump announcing he was ready to pull the US out of the region?

Assad did it because he's a genocidal psychopath.


Lash wrote:
It seems strongly that forces within our government are responsible for Douma.

No it doesn't.
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hightor
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 12:00 pm
@Lash,
Quote:

What do you think?

I think you'd need to have much better evidence to make such a serious charge believable. Trump's stated desire to pull our forces out is nowhere near being a done deal. Meanwhile Assad's forces face desperate anti-government militants who are holed up in neighborhoods amidst civilians — just about the worst scenario possible. So a chemical attack doesn't seem all that hard to accept as a softening up tactic. Your sources simply provide circumstantial evidence. For instance:
Caitlin Johnstone wrote:
There have been reports from the Russian government in the last few weeks claiming they have received intel that the US and its terrorist lackeys in Syria are preparing a major chemical weapons attack in southern Syria for the purposes of implicating Assad.

Why couldn't the Russians just be saying this so as to cover any use of chemical weapons by Assad? Why take anything they say at face value?
Caitlin Johnstone wrote:
When war propagandists for the western empire tells you Assad is using chemical weapons for no discernible reason, you take it with an Iraq-sized grain of salt.

When war propagandists for the Russian empire accuse the Syrian opposition of staging a needless false flag chemical attack I think I'd take that information with a Trump Tower-sized grain of salt. It's not as if Assad — or his Russian backers — has shown great humanitarian concern for those civilians trapped in rebel-held areas.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 12:42 pm
@hightor,
The Sana news agency cited an official source as saying the rebel group Jaish al-Islam was making "chemical attack fabrications in an exposed and failed attempt to obstruct advances by the Syrian Arab army".

Eastern Ghouta has in the past already been attacked with chlorine and sarin gas.

It's hard to believe that the made an attack which led directly to the deaths of at least 42 people, with hundreds of injured showing symptoms they said were consistent with exposure to an organophosphorus compound.

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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:22 pm
Is Israel bombing Syria?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 8 Apr, 2018 08:42 pm
Israel is bombing Gaza in at least two locations, and reports from Syria cite Israel as bombing a Syrian airfield.

Nutty reports with conflicting details gorge the inter web.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 9 Apr, 2018 02:46 pm
Wikileaks
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WikiLeaks issues a US$100,000 reward for confidential official information (intercepts, reports) showing to who is responsible for the alleged chemical attack in Douma, Syria.

Send information here: wikileaks.org/#submit
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2018 07:58 pm
And the other shoe drops. I hope we limited the bombing to uninhabited military sites. Glad we had company.

Wish to Hell we hadn’t done anything.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2018 08:07 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Wish to Hell we hadn’t done anything.

My preferred response would be to build international consensus to not ease any sanctions on Russia or Syria until the UN refers the Syrian war to the International Criminal Court.

But regardless of method of response, we can't just stand by and let Assad massacre civilians with nerve gas.
Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 08:47 am
FSA terrorists teach children to fake a chemical attack

https://streamable.com/uyi71
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 11:47 am
@oralloy,
We should have confirmed that he, in fact, was guilty of the gassing.

I don’t think he was.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 11:55 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
We should have confirmed that he, in fact, was guilty of the gassing.

We did that.


Lash wrote:
I don’t think he was.

He was. Assad deliberately used nerve gas against civilians as part of his quest to commit genocide against them.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 12:36 pm
Just curious...

How many people here on this thread believe that the Holocaust happened?

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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 06:32 pm
I don’t think anyone here doubts the Holocaust happened. The evidence is overwhelming.

Not one shred of evidence has been made public regarding which of the many oddly aligned factions fighting in Syria gassed Syrians.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2018 07:14 pm
@Lash,
The nerve gas attacks could only have been carried out by soldiers who were trained by a government to carry out nerve gas attacks.

The chlorine gas attacks are dropped from helicopters flown by the Syrian Air Force.
 

 
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