Austin bombings

Guy was homeschooled, which is indicative of a conservative religious background.

Huh??

Why do you say so? I know many liberal parents who home school. There is actually a big increase in liberal home schooling.

Homeschooling = conservative Christian background in my initial assessment, but, yes, that’s a regional stereotype on my part.

Might be true, but don’t bank on it.

less chance of having your child get mowed down by a sick **** with a gun...

I hear/read homeschooling and think - trouble ahead (and stay away from the parents to start off with)

I always have the same gut feeling when hearing someone is being homeschooled.

Bringing this back to 24 year old Conditt. Family and friends are giving the ususal "we just didn't know something was wrong" line.

Maybe something would have been caught if he had been in an actual school system.
I don't know if spending the "school day" with a parent who has more or less expertise in a variety of subjects is conducive to developing a well rounded person.

Re homeschooling to keep your child from getting shot, well, it didn't keep someone who was homeschooled from blowing up people who weren't in school.

Everything I've read about him so far reads creepy.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/austin-bomber-mark-anthony-conditt-texas-christian-righteous-invasion-truth-a8267976.html

I guess because I have known various people from various backgrounds that have had their kids home schooled for a lot of different reasons. One because of where they live was kind of a remote area in California so a group of parents put together a home school program some of which were former teachers. There was no religious portion to this at all.

Another that their boy had been bullied and had ADHD so she home schooled all the kids for a few years and as he gained confidence and had better control over his impulses they are now in public school.

Another because where they live there is violence in the public schools so again a group of parents have an actual school room where they are home schooled. This does have some religious background.

I know another girl - she is adopted and can be high strung and hard to handle sometimes - she is home schooled as it works best for her to focus.

My daughter was having a difficult time when she initially went to high school and asked to be home schooled - we were able to get her to see the adjustments counselor so she is feeling much better about school.

There are a variety of reasons - there is even what is called "unschooled" home schooling (which is the extreme liberal side of home schooling).

I don't necessarily think alarm! Maybe because I live in Mass and not in the south where there are more extreme religious groups.

Or, as more extreme religious groups are known here.....Baptists.

Overall, I would say that most parents who choose to homeschool in Tx, an overall a red, fundamentalist state, is in large part due to religious/moral beliefs.

They don't want there kids exposed to crazy things like evolution, gender equality and acceptance of the LGBT community.

Since home schooling is considered private school, they aren't regulated.

You could pull out your bible, sit the kids in front of you reading it for a few hours, and that would be considered an education.

Socialization? Well, it's with your church groups of course.

Not saying there aren't other reasons, or that there aren't parents to are prepared to give their children a good education. I just don't trust it.

Ha ha - my children went to a Baptist school when they were younger. They are so far from extreme. Now there were some particular families I would consider extreme that went to school there, but as a whole the school and the church was far from extreme.

Shows how jaded a person can be about a particular religion based on their limited experience with it. It is similar opinion with some people believing all Muslims are violent and terrorists.

You don't live in Texas linkat.

Come stay with me awhile and then let's see what you have to say.

Although Austin is considered a liberal place to live, you'd have little problem with finding people who will tell you to your face you're going to hell for the most incredible reasons. They use every opportunity to tell you about Jesus, ask you if you're "saved" and try to get you to "come visit" their church...On the other extreme, they shun anyone who isn't involved in their religion, keep their children isolated from anything secular and are just generally annoying.

I've had more than one person in the workplace out of nowhere ask me if I'd like to "pray with them", meaning stop what I was doing at work, hold their hands, close their eyes, and listen to them natter on. When one declines, you are henceforth given the cold shoulder as a non-believer. This is even you you do have a religion, and let them know you're good with following that faith, and don't want to pray with them in the hallway or lunchroom or in your office at work.


These aren't particularly the baptists, but they can be pretty bad too. The worst are people to belong to churches/religions with names I can't even remember.

It's not like my memories of the NE Linkat, where someones religion are pretty much uninteresting to most everyone else.

Be glad you didn't end up living in Dallas, if you thought in the area of religion it was going to be like where you live. Now that's a conservative area.

And our bomber lived here, and was apparantly at least moderately involved in those activies.

The Austin bomber was involved in a teenage Christian “survivalist” group that discussed weapons and dangerous chemicals, according to a childhood friend.

Mark Anthony Conditt reportedly took part in a conservative outdoors club called Righteous Invasion of Truth (RIOT), in which home-schooled young people studied the Bible and were taught gun skills.

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None of the newscasts I watched mentioned any of this, even though they claim to be digging deep to find a motive.

Your experience is apparantly quite limited too. You've got no experience with the Bible Belt. Texas is the buckle of it.

I've lived all over the South, and what I discribed above is common. When you live in a rural area, it's a daily thing.

You haven't been on a Boston subway! I actually sometimes have fun and try to engage them. The thing is - I always wonder why they think this is going to convince people to find Jesus acting like a crazy person.

Gosh people in the workplace - that is crazy - that would be an instance where people could get fired here.

Yeah, unfortunately it's not the crazy subway person that will tell you that, but someone that has been quite normally been passing the time of day, or worse yet, someone you have at least casually known for a long time, and they suddenly need to let you know you that they think you deserve eternal torment after you're dead.

This video is one of my favorites....sure you can think that Jeff on the video is over reacting, but seriously, listen to what he's saying....take in his message.

BTW, this show is made in Austin, they get callers from all over the country. This caller happens to be from Austin too. Actually they get calls from other countries too.




On another video, the same subject comes up with a christian woman and Jeff. In this one, the woman tries to justify this by saying "God isn't sending you to hell, you're sending yourself"

Jeff's answer is just too logical for her. He says "Then I refuse to go!"

It just started going round and round from there.

Woman: But you will go there
Jeff: Then your God is sending me!
Woman: No he's not, you're sending yourself.
Jeff: Then I refuse to go!

She just couldn't hold herself accountable for believing in something that would damn you to eternal torture.

You're sending yourself. Yeah, right.

btw linkat, I didn't thumb you down above.

The problem is it is the loud obnoxious people within a particular group that stands out. Then others incorrectly assume anyone within a group is the same. There are probably as many or more likely even more people that are not rude obnoxious and do not push their opinions in such an inappropriate way. The difference is they do not stand out - why? Well obviously you cannot help but hear the loud rude idiots and they are in your face.

If you travel overseas for example, many other countries consider Americans rude and loud and full of themselves. Why? Because that is who they see and hear - the polite respectful Americans blend in more - they are not noticed because they are acting appropriately.

Funny story especially because this particular group was from Texas - I was overseas with my friend taking a ferry over to Ireland and in come this large loud obnoxious tour group of people from Texas. How did we know they were from Texas - they were wearing these huge pins with the state of Texas on them and their names.

We did not want anyone to know we were from any area that you could associate with them. We later made fun of all Texans with the impression that all Texans are big, loud obnoxious and rude. And of course since then I have met many Texans and most upon my visits (and almost moving), I found were extremely polite and personable.

I did not even notice I had a thumbs down - and I honestly do not care about that - I find myself sometimes thumbing people up (whether I agree or not) simply because I see a bully like atmosphere sometimes with it. You don't strike me the type that resorts to stuff like that. You would be in your face and up front (and I like that in a person).

I just wish there was a sticking out thumb emoticon - instead of the thumbs down - it would make it much more fun.

We need to, but we won't, address the increasing number of young males in this country who for some perverse reason feel that murderous violence validates them as individual men.

The feminization of our society has been going on for decades, and it's not been a solely unwelcomed change, but when it ventured into the realm of "toxic masculinity," it became a social malignancy.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/police-chief-austin-bomber-is-a-domestic-terrorist

Austin police chief is calling the bomber a 'domestic terrorist.'