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Coup in Zimbabwe.

 
 
Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 01:56 am
Not sure how to feel about this, military coups are bad, but Mugabe is a monster and by all accounts his wife is even worse.

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Zimbabweans are waiting to see what steps the military will take next after seizing control of the country.

President Robert Mugabe is said to be confined to his home in Harare but unconfirmed reports says his wife Grace, who was bidding to succeed him as president, has fled to Namibia.

The military's action followed the sacking of Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, a fierce rival of Mrs Mugabe.

His whereabouts are also unclear.

President Mugabe, 93, has been in control of Zimbabwe since it gained independence from Britain in 1980.

But the power struggle over who might succeed him, between Mrs Mugabe and Mr Mnangagwa, has split the ruling Zanu-PF party in recent months.

Evidence that Mrs Mugabe's circle was being pressured by the military came on Wednesday when one of her key allies made a public apology for criticising the head of the army a day earlier.



More at link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42006777
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 02:08 am
@izzythepush,
The temptation is to ask how it could get worse. On the other hand, it probably could.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 02:11 am
@roger,
Stability, no matter how autocratic is usually preferable to chaos, but unless it all kicks off it's hard to think how things could get worse.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 02:56 am
It cracks me up that the military keeps saying it's not a coup. Is there some distinction in there that I'm missing?
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 05:37 am
I think it's good to have deposed Mugabe. Whether it continues to develop in a positive direction is up in the air and I'm not necessarily optimistic. Critics have complained that this event is "anti-democratic" but the political system had been so totally corrupted that expecting an effective opposition to emerge and vie for power legitimately amounts to nothing more than wishful thinking.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 05:50 am
Commentators I've heard on the radio suggest that Mugabe's wife left the country with most of the liquid assets of the nation. Some even suggested that she was complicit in the coup which is not a coup. Most sources, however, claim that Grace attempted to flee, but was bottled up along with her husband.

Mugabe's regime has been corrupt, quasi-fascist (but not competent enough to organize as well as fascists do) and destructive of the country's economy since the beginning. However this turns out, I say they're better off without him, and without Grace and anyone associated with him.
hightor
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 06:03 am
@Setanta,
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Is there some distinction in there that I'm missing?

One commentator pointed out that the coup leaders are still referring to Mr. Mugabe as "President Mugabe" and that's supposed to indicate that he has not be overthrown, thus, no "coup". Brilliant casuistry.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 06:05 am
@Setanta,
Unfortunately the coup leader and former deputy pm were both very much associated with Mugabe until very recently.

There is very comprehensive coverage of this in today's Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/16/zimbabwe-mugabe-and-military-talks-continue-amid-political-limbo
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 16 Nov, 2017 06:39 am
@hightor,
Ya gotta love logic-chopping.

Confusion reigns--some sources I've heard on the radio say that the Lt. General who appeared on television is a Mugabe crony, and others that he is a supporter of the Vice President whom Mugabe dismissed last week. Other, more subtle observations say the point of the coup is to prevent Grace from succeeding her husband.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2017 02:10 am
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Zimbabwe's long-time President Robert Mugabe is reportedly refusing to step down immediately, despite growing calls for his resignation.

The 93-year-old was put under house arrest during a military takeover on Wednesday, amid a power struggle over who would succeed him.

The military said on Friday it was "engaging" with Mr Mugabe.

It also said it had been arresting "criminals" around the president, but gave no names.

Several senior officials are said to have been detained since Wednesday.
"Others are still at large," the military said.

In a televised statement, the military said it would advise the nation on the outcome of talks with Mr Mugabe "as soon as possible".

Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai said it was "in the interests of the people" that Mr Mugabe "resign... immediately".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42020416
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 17 Nov, 2017 03:47 am
Breaking News.

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Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has made his first public appearance since the country's army took over on Wednesday.

He attended a graduation ceremony in the capital, Harare.

Mr Mugabe had been under house arrest for days, amid a power struggle over who would succeed him.

The military said on Friday it was "engaging" with Mr Mugabe and would advise the public on the outcome of talks "as soon as possible".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42024920
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 18 Nov, 2017 04:12 am
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Jubilant scenes are unfolding on the streets of Zimbabwe's capital Harare, as protests demanding the resignation of President Robert Mugabe have turned to a celebration of the army's role in ending his grip on power.

BBC correspondents say protesters are hugging soldiers in the crowd and cheering for them.

One man told the BBC the day was "about a new beginning".

The rally is supported by the army and members of the ruling Zanu-PF party.

War veterans - who until last year were loyal to the president - are also saying Mr Mugabe should quit.

A BBC correspondent in Harare says this is a watershed moment and there can be no return to power for Mr Mugabe.

A man arriving at the rally said: "As Zimbabweans, we are saying to our army: Thank you very much for the peaceful intervention.

"And it's time for the masses of Zimbabwe to say: Mugabe must go and must go, like, yesterday. We can't wait to see his back. For us, it's about a new beginning.

"For us, it's about the end of authoritarian rule and we are going to take our Zimbabwe back."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42035981
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2017 05:23 am
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President Robert Mugabe's closest allies in the party he founded are calling on him to step down, as pressure on him intensifies following a military intervention and protests.

Senior Zanu-PF officials have begun talks on whether to dismiss Zimbabwe's veteran leader from the party leadership.

The party's Youth League, previously loyal to him, has turned against him.

And military leaders are set to meet Mr Mugabe later on Sunday.

They are expected to make a further attempt to persuade him to resign. Mediation will be led by a Catholic priest, state TV said.

In a statement the Zanu-PF Youth League condemned Mr Mugabe's allies for "looting and plundering" and his wife Grace for "vulgar, cunning and unruly behaviour", and called on him to stand down and to "rest as an elder statesman".

Nine of 10 Zanu-PF party chapters say Mr Mugabe should step down and their decision is likely to be endorsed at Sunday's meeting of the party's top body, the central committee.

The head of the influential War Veterans Association, Chris Mutsvangwa, predicted to Reuters before the meeting that Mr Mugabe would be removed from the party leadership, and his wife would lose her position as head of its women's league.

He then threatened to "bring back the crowds and they will do their business" if Mr Mugabe did not step down.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42041055
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2017 09:51 am
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Zimbabwe's ruling party has sacked Robert Mugabe as its leader, as pressure intensifies for him to step down as president.

Zanu-PF appointed ex-Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, who was fired by Mr Mugabe two weeks ago, in his place.

The party has given Mr Mugabe, 93, until 10:00 GMT on Monday to resign as president, or face impeachment.

The military intervened last week, in an apparent attempt to block him from installing his wife as his successor.

The first lady, Grace Mugabe, and several other senior officials have been expelled from the party altogether.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42043370
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2017 04:53 pm
I'm following.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 19 Nov, 2017 06:15 pm
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Zimbabwe's embattled leader Robert Mugabe has vowed to stay in power for several weeks, despite mounting calls for him to stand down now.

In a live TV address, Mr Mugabe said he would preside over the ruling party's congress in December.

Zanu-PF earlier sacked him as party leader, and gave him less than 24 hours to resign as president or be impeached.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42046911
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 21 Nov, 2017 10:13 am
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Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has resigned, parliament speaker Jacob Mudenda has said.

A letter from Mr Mugabe said that the decision was voluntary and that he had made it to allow a smooth transfer of power, the Reuters news agency reports.

The surprise announcement halted an impeachment hearing that had begun against him.

Lawmakers roared in jubilation and people have begun celebrating in the streets.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42071488
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Nov, 2017 01:56 am
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Jubilant Zimbabweans have celebrated late into the night after Robert Mugabe resigned as president.

He held power for 37 years and once said "only God" could remove him.

His ally turned rival, former Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, is expected to return from neighbouring South Africa and could be appointed as the new president within hours.

Mr Mugabe's shock resignation came in the form of a letter read out by the speaker of parliament.

In it, Mr Mugabe - who had so far resisted pressure from the public, the army and his own party to step aside - said he was resigning to allow a smooth and peaceful transfer of power, and that his decision was voluntary.

The announcement abruptly halted an impeachment hearing that had begun against him on Tuesday.

Lawmakers from the ruling party and opposition roared with glee, and spontaneous scenes of joy erupted in the streets with people dancing, singing, honking car horns and waving flags.

"I'm so happy, wonderful, feeling so much excited, this is the greatest moment for our country," Julian Mtukudzi told the AFP news agency.

"We have been having sleepless nights hoping and waiting and we are so happy. It's over and it's done."



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42072673

https://e3.365dm.com/17/11/288x216/skynews-zimbabwe-mugabe_4162543.jpg?20171121211833

Despite Mugabe's disastrous handling of the economy his one good legacy is education. Zimbabweans are one of the most educated people in the region. World leaders will be falling over themselves to deal with his predecessor because trade deals could be of enormous benefit to everyone.

The only problem is Mugabe's successor, who looks like a right thug.

https://www.theindependent.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Emmerson-Mnangagwa7.jpg

Fingers crossed.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 23 Nov, 2017 01:48 am
Opinion piece about Zimbabwe's next move.

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It's been a dramatic, inspiring, earthquake of a week in Zimbabwe. But if you're looking for evidence to show that what really happened was a ruthless reshuffle within the governing party, Zanu-PF, rather than any grander transformation in politics or society, it is worth having a chat with the local MP for Harare East.

I met the Honourable Terence Mukupe in the garden of the Miekles Hotel in the city centre, as his new party boss, Emmerson Mnangagwa, was poised to return to the country, and a fellow Harare MP was busy being dragged off, in tears, by plain-clothed security agents in the hotel lobby.

"That's a signal to the public that we really mean business," said Mr Mukupe, drily, of his Zanu-PF colleague, Shadreck Mashayamombe - reportedly a former aide to Grace Mugabe.

"There are going to be over 500 high-profile people that are going to face the music, be taken to court, and that's what Zimbabweans want to see. No sacred cows," he continued.Mr Mukupe, who says he worked for 10 years as an investment banker on Wall Street before winning his seat in parliament two years ago, is part of an ambitious younger generation of Zanu-PF MPs who have been at the heart of the internal power struggles that led to last week's military "intervention."

Although he briefly sided with the G40 group linked to Grace Mugabe, he quickly and - as it soon proved - presciently switched to endorse her bitter rival Mr Mnangagwa.

Now Mr Mukupe foresees a Zanu-PF revival, with technocrats - like himself perhaps - brought in to the cabinet to fix the economy, and next year's national elections already a foregone conclusion.

"There's so much chaos within the opposition. Everyone is clear that Zanu-PF is going to win the election. It will be a landslide. So let's have change within Zanu-PF," he said. He mentioned Rwanda as an example to follow. "People want to see technocrats. It should become a meritocracy."


More at link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42088257
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 24 Nov, 2017 05:08 am
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Emmerson Mnangagwa has been sworn in as Zimbabwe's president in a ceremony at a packed stadium in the country's capital, Harare.

It follows the dramatic departure of Robert Mugabe after 37 years of authoritarian rule.

The former vice-president's dismissal earlier this month led the ruling Zanu-PF party and the army to intervene and force Mr Mugabe to quit.

Mr Mnangagwa, who had fled the country, returned from exile on Wednesday.

The opposition is urging Mr Mnangagwa, who has been part of the ruling elite, to end the "culture of corruption".

Although Mr Mnangagwa has unseated Zimbabwe's long-time ruler, he is still associated by many with some of the worst atrocities committed under the ruling Zanu-PF party since the country gained independence in 1980.

He was the country's spymaster during the 1980s civil conflict, in which thousands of civilians were killed. But he has denied any role in the massacres, blaming the army.

Tens of thousands of people packed the National Sports Stadium at Harare to witness the inauguration. Pop singer Jah Prayzer provided the entertainment and, as people in the crowd danced, the atmosphere was closer to that of a concert.

Dignitaries, including leaders from various African countries filed in to cheers.

Opposition leaders Morgan Tsvangirai and Joice Mujuru - who have both also had their sights on the presidency at various times - were there.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42100283
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