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Thu 16 Nov, 2017 01:56 am
Not sure how to feel about this, military coups are bad, but Mugabe is a monster and by all accounts his wife is even worse.
Quote:Zimbabweans are waiting to see what steps the military will take next after seizing control of the country.
President Robert Mugabe is said to be confined to his home in Harare but unconfirmed reports says his wife Grace, who was bidding to succeed him as president, has fled to Namibia.
The military's action followed the sacking of Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, a fierce rival of Mrs Mugabe.
His whereabouts are also unclear.
President Mugabe, 93, has been in control of Zimbabwe since it gained independence from Britain in 1980.
But the power struggle over who might succeed him, between Mrs Mugabe and Mr Mnangagwa, has split the ruling Zanu-PF party in recent months.
Evidence that Mrs Mugabe's circle was being pressured by the military came on Wednesday when one of her key allies made a public apology for criticising the head of the army a day earlier.
More at link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42006777
@izzythepush,
The temptation is to ask how it could get worse. On the other hand, it probably could.
@roger,
Stability, no matter how autocratic is usually preferable to chaos, but unless it all kicks off it's hard to think how things could get worse.
It cracks me up that the military keeps saying it's not a coup. Is there some distinction in there that I'm missing?
I think it's good to have deposed Mugabe. Whether it continues to develop in a positive direction is up in the air and I'm not necessarily optimistic. Critics have complained that this event is "anti-democratic" but the political system had been so totally corrupted that expecting an effective opposition to emerge and vie for power legitimately amounts to nothing more than wishful thinking.
Commentators I've heard on the radio suggest that Mugabe's wife left the country with most of the liquid assets of the nation. Some even suggested that she was complicit in the coup which is not a coup. Most sources, however, claim that Grace attempted to flee, but was bottled up along with her husband.
Mugabe's regime has been corrupt, quasi-fascist (but not competent enough to organize as well as fascists do) and destructive of the country's economy since the beginning. However this turns out, I say they're better off without him, and without Grace and anyone associated with him.
@Setanta,
Quote: Is there some distinction in there that I'm missing?
One commentator pointed out that the coup leaders are still referring to Mr. Mugabe as "President Mugabe" and that's supposed to indicate that he has not be overthrown, thus, no "coup". Brilliant casuistry.
@Setanta,
Unfortunately the coup leader and former deputy pm were both very much associated with Mugabe until very recently.
There is very comprehensive coverage of this in today's Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/16/zimbabwe-mugabe-and-military-talks-continue-amid-political-limbo
@hightor,
Ya gotta love logic-chopping.
Confusion reigns--some sources I've heard on the radio say that the Lt. General who appeared on television is a Mugabe crony, and others that he is a supporter of the Vice President whom Mugabe dismissed last week. Other, more subtle observations say the point of the coup is to prevent Grace from succeeding her husband.
Quote:Jubilant Zimbabweans have celebrated late into the night after Robert Mugabe resigned as president.
He held power for 37 years and once said "only God" could remove him.
His ally turned rival, former Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, is expected to return from neighbouring South Africa and could be appointed as the new president within hours.
Mr Mugabe's shock resignation came in the form of a letter read out by the speaker of parliament.
In it, Mr Mugabe - who had so far resisted pressure from the public, the army and his own party to step aside - said he was resigning to allow a smooth and peaceful transfer of power, and that his decision was voluntary.
The announcement abruptly halted an impeachment hearing that had begun against him on Tuesday.
Lawmakers from the ruling party and opposition roared with glee, and spontaneous scenes of joy erupted in the streets with people dancing, singing, honking car horns and waving flags.
"I'm so happy, wonderful, feeling so much excited, this is the greatest moment for our country," Julian Mtukudzi told the AFP news agency.
"We have been having sleepless nights hoping and waiting and we are so happy. It's over and it's done."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42072673
Despite Mugabe's disastrous handling of the economy his one good legacy is education. Zimbabweans are one of the most educated people in the region. World leaders will be falling over themselves to deal with his predecessor because trade deals could be of enormous benefit to everyone.
The only problem is Mugabe's successor, who looks like a right thug.
Fingers crossed.
Opinion piece about Zimbabwe's next move.
Quote:It's been a dramatic, inspiring, earthquake of a week in Zimbabwe. But if you're looking for evidence to show that what really happened was a ruthless reshuffle within the governing party, Zanu-PF, rather than any grander transformation in politics or society, it is worth having a chat with the local MP for Harare East.
I met the Honourable Terence Mukupe in the garden of the Miekles Hotel in the city centre, as his new party boss, Emmerson Mnangagwa, was poised to return to the country, and a fellow Harare MP was busy being dragged off, in tears, by plain-clothed security agents in the hotel lobby.
"That's a signal to the public that we really mean business," said Mr Mukupe, drily, of his Zanu-PF colleague, Shadreck Mashayamombe - reportedly a former aide to Grace Mugabe.
"There are going to be over 500 high-profile people that are going to face the music, be taken to court, and that's what Zimbabweans want to see. No sacred cows," he continued.Mr Mukupe, who says he worked for 10 years as an investment banker on Wall Street before winning his seat in parliament two years ago, is part of an ambitious younger generation of Zanu-PF MPs who have been at the heart of the internal power struggles that led to last week's military "intervention."
Although he briefly sided with the G40 group linked to Grace Mugabe, he quickly and - as it soon proved - presciently switched to endorse her bitter rival Mr Mnangagwa.
Now Mr Mukupe foresees a Zanu-PF revival, with technocrats - like himself perhaps - brought in to the cabinet to fix the economy, and next year's national elections already a foregone conclusion.
"There's so much chaos within the opposition. Everyone is clear that Zanu-PF is going to win the election. It will be a landslide. So let's have change within Zanu-PF," he said. He mentioned Rwanda as an example to follow. "People want to see technocrats. It should become a meritocracy."
More at link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42088257