NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

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I came up with a different analysis.
This isn't a number where it has to add up correctly, meaning it's not exactly an equation. Think of each number individually.

Also, M doesn't have to be Zero. It could be One.

i think i have the correct answer....DAMON=87912

I make it 87912. Does anyone get the same answer?

lol, obviously they did!

I've gotten help here before, so I'll just tell you my answer.
I got 87120.

Mathmatically, 2178 X 4 = 8712, but you need a fifth digit. I used Zero as the first number.

Dang it Carvel, you're probably right.

i got 87912 and i'm positive it's right, although i pretty much got to it by guessing. these things are just intuitive when you're used to multiplying things by hand, but i'll try to explain it.

1) you basically know the two numbers are 2___8 and 8___2. that's .. yeah.

2) the first number has to be either 21__8 or 22__8, since anything else would mess up the number because you'd need to carry something over when multiplying by 4. ie 4 times 3 would be 12, meaning you'd have to carry over the 1.

3) since the question said different digits, i ruled out the 22__8. so the first number is 21__8 and the second is 8__12.

4) looking at the last digit of the first number, 4 times 8 is 32. this means a 3 is carried over to the next number. this means the second to last digit of the first number is either 2 or 7 (4 times 2 plus 3 is 11, which fits with the 1 in the second number. 4 times 7 plus 3 is 31, which also fits). since 2 was already used, i picked 7. so .. first number, 21_78. second number, 87_12.

5) looking at the thousands column, you have a 1 and a 7. 1900 times 4 is 7600, which seems plausible, i just threw in a 9 and got 21978 and 87912.

6) put that into the calculator and voila! it works.

WOW- That's impressive.

Here's what I did. USED THE INTERNET.

After Carvel posted the answer, I went to my webbrowser, typed in 21978 * 4 = 87912 and hit SEARCH. In about 1.2 milliseconds, the computer found me over a dozen websites that had the answer posted right on there for me to read. To bad I submitted the wrong answer first.

okay so i totally wasn't first to post the answer.

but i actually got the last three conundrums by myself! which is just really great for me. i usually use this topic as my lifeline on wednesday nights, haha.

Ya I've done a few myself, but I've found that if you want to win the item, you have to catch it fast and just get the answer somehow.

well the second number has to be 3 or 1, if that helps.

disregard. i didn't see the topic had moved. -kicks self-

Why does the second digit have to be a 1 or a 3, and is that the second digit of NOMAD or DAMON??? Please specify.

Thanks
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All it takes is a little time and effort (or a quick web search).


You are multiplying a five-digit number and getting a five-digit number. This means that there is no "carry" from the ten-thousands' place. Since 4 ?- 3 = 12, and very larger multiple is two digits as well, this limits the leading N in NOMAD to being 1 or 2, to prevent the (unwanted) "carry".

Since D ?- 4 = N (or N + 10, if there is a "carry" to the tens' place), you have:

. . . . .4 ?- 1 = 4
. . . . .4 ?- 2 = 8
. . . . .4 ?- 3 = 12
. . . . .4 ?- 4 = 16
. . . . .4 ?- 5 = 20
. . . . .4 ?- 6 = 24
. . . . .4 ?- 7 = 28
. . . . .4 ?- 8 = 32
. . . . .4 ?- 9 = 36

(Obviously D cannot be zero, since then N would also be zero, and leading zeroes are not allowed in whole numbers.)

So D ?- 4 = N ends in any of 2, 4, 6, and 8. Since we already know that N must be 1 or 2, we must have N = 2, and thus D = 3 or D = 8.

. . . . .2 O M A D ?- 4 = D A M O 2

Since N = 2 and since 4 ?- 2 = 8, then D must be 8:

. . . . .2 O M A 8 ?- 4 = 8 A M O 2

Since 4 ?- 8 = 32, there will be a "carry" of 3 into the tens' place. We can see that there cannot be a "carry" from the O, because then D would be more than 8. So O must be 1 or 2. Suppose O = 1. Then:

. . . . .2 1 M A 8 ?- 4 = 8 A M 1 2

From the ones' place, we have 4 ?- 8 = 32, so there is a "carry" of 3 into the tens' place. This means that 4 ?- A + 3 = ??, where ?? has a ones' digit of 1 (from O).

Suppose ?? = 11. Then 4 ?- A = 8, so A = 2. But 2 is already taken.

Suppose ?? = 21. Then 4 ?- A = 18, so A = 18/4 = 9/2. But this is not possible.

Suppose ?? = 31. Then 4 ?- A = 28, so A = 7:

. . . . .2 1 M 7 8 ?- 4 = 8 7 M 1 2

So far, we have:

. . . . .(21000 + M + 78) ?- 4 = 84000 + 4M + 312 = 84312 + 4M

Then we need a "carry" of 3 from 4M. We know that, with the "carry" from the ten's place, the result of the hundreds' place multiplication will be 4 ?- M + 3 = 30 + #. Then 4 ?- M is at least 27, so M is at least 7.

Since 7 and 8 are already taken, then M must be 9 (assuming our "suppose O = 1" was correct). Then:

. . . . .2 1 9 7 8 ?- 4

Since 21978 ?- 4 = 87912, then these are the correct values.

Eliz.

Maybe its a riddle, "..he came up with one using his name"

The answer is 87912 like it's been said many times. It's not hard to figure out, since NOMAD is DAMON backwards, and how many other 5 digit numbers can you multiply by 4 and get the same number, only backwards?

Lol, i figured out the puzzle the second I saw the guys name was DAMON the NOMAD lol.

hey guys this eek id confusing can you help me? Remnok the Nomad has a brother, Damon the Nomad, who's fond of coming up with math puzzles. Anyway, he came up with one that uses his own name:

Assume each letter in the following formula represents a unique digit: (for example, ABCD could be the number 1234)

NOMAD x 4 = DAMON


What is the number represented by the digits DAMON?

What objection do you have to the solutions that have already been posted (for instance, in the message three posts before yours)?

Please be specific. Thank you.

Eliz.

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