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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 09:32 pm
Gilbert the Gelert farmer (He's a Gelert who happens to be a farmer, not a farmer who grows Gelerts!) has three fields. One field is an equilateral triangle, one field is a circle, and one field is a square. The square field is 75% larger in area than the triangular field, and 50% larger in area than the circular field. In order to completely fence all three of the fields, exactly 4000 metres of fencing is required.

What is the total area of all three fields, in square metres?
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 09:39 pm
First question is what do they mean by 50% larger.

If field A is 100 sq meters, does that make Field B 75 square meters?

Or 50 square meters?
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Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 09:43 pm
Means it's 150% the size of the other field Smile
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 09:52 pm
So to make it simple:

Area of Triangle = Area of Square / 1.75

Area of Circle = Area of Square /1.5

Correct?
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Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 09:56 pm
I think that's right, I worked it all out into fractions of x Razz
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:01 pm
I used a spreadsheet to figure it out.

Assuming that:

ACircle = ASquare/1.5

ATriangle = ASquare/1.75

then

totalArea = ASquare + ASquare/1.5 + ASquare/1.75

(continued shortly)
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:05 pm
Changing to fractions:

total area = S + 4/7 S + 2/3 S

Simplifying:

total area = 21/21 S + 12/21 S + 14/21 S

total area = 47/21 S

So area of square (S) = 21/47 total area

Not sure where I'm going with this... so I'll explain the spreadsheet instead
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Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:06 pm
I think you're heading in the right direction there Surprised
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littlegreenman28
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:10 pm
...nevermind, just kidding

EDIT: I'm stupid.
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:11 pm
Down the left side, labeled Square, Circle, Triangle, Total
Next column = areas.
Square = (plug in some number)
Circle = (square/1.5)
Triangle = (square/1.75)

Next column over is formula for a "side"
Square = Sqrt(area of square)
Circle = 2 * pi * sqrt(area of quare / Pi)
Triangle = Sqrt((2 * area of square) / sin(degrees(60))

Next column is total length of sides
Square = 4 * square side
Triangle = 3 * triangle side
circle = circle side. (circumference)

Under that is total length = sum (square + circle + triangle)

Now you just tweak initial area of square...
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Br0kenxoxo
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:16 pm
equation
why would it be 1.75 and 1.50 wouldnt it just me .75 and .50 becuase when u convert a percent to a decimal u move the % to the left twice.. no one infront of it = /
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:17 pm
Assuming all those formulas are right, If you plug in a Square area of 282929.2

the total fence comes out to 4000

and total area comes to 633222.4952


But that's subject to review of the formulas of course...
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littlegreenman28
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:17 pm
Re: equation
Br0ken_xoxo wrote:
why would it be 1.75 and 1.50 wouldnt it just me .75 and .50 becuase when u convert a percent to a decimal u move the % to the left twice.. no one infront of it = /


Yeah....but if it's 50 percent bigger, that means that it's 100% of the size, plus that 50%, making it 1.5 times that size.
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marty22sam
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:20 pm
Side of a square = sqrt(area)

Pretty sure that is correct.

Side of circle. (Circumference)

C = 2 Pi R

and Area = Pi R * R

solving for r: R = sqrt(Area/Pi)

plug into circumference formula:

C = 2 * pi * sqrt(area/Pi)

Sound good?
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Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:20 pm
try 2345 for tha area of the square
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Theoneandonly
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:22 pm
Wow, missed a whole page here Razz NM!
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Br0kenxoxo
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:22 pm
area formulas:

square= side squared
circle= (pi)radius squared
triangle= (base)(height)/2
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kristen1993
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:23 pm
lc
I have no clue with this one cause math is my weakest subject... now letter I am fine with..... So would you mind helping me out too? Thank you
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Br0kenxoxo
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:24 pm
math is my favorite subject how ever i've been out of school for a few months now so i'ma bit rusty XD
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Br0kenxoxo
 
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Reply Wed 9 Aug, 2006 10:25 pm
Gilbert the Gelert farmer (He's a Gelert who happens to be a farmer, not a farmer who grows Gelerts!) has three fields. One field is an equilateral triangle, one field is a circle, and one field is a square. The square field is 75% larger in area than the triangular field, and 50% larger in area than the circular field. In order to completely fence all three of the fields, exactly 4000 metres of fencing is required.

when they say that do they mean individualy or alltogether as if they were connected?
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