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NeoPets Riddles (Lenny Conundrums) and Answers Here

 
 
lem
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:27 pm
Tell us how you came up with it to begin with, and I'm sure someone will correct you if you're wrong!
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baconNtofu
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:29 pm
well, what i did do initially was figute out how the numbers all related to each other.

1-22272
2-24742
3-25862766
4-2674
5- ?

1- x 2- = *
*/2 = 1

Now, where i think i messed up, was i multiplied 2674 by 2674... but that would mean i'd have to squre root the given answer above, and not divide it...

so i did 2674 x 2674 = 7150276

then divided 7150276 by 2, and got 2674 :\
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baconNtofu
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:32 pm
I already answered ...i wish i had it written out before i did, and before i posted it.... *shrugs* oh well, what can you do lol

was my first time posting here too, i was all excited and such
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lem
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:35 pm
I don't think I follow your logic... Maybe it's because it's almost midnite over here, where I am....

As to posting a tad too soon. I know how it feels. When I just joined this board I had a time, when I had an enlightment and figured out the way to solve LC right after it was posted. Got so excited to do it fast that made a stupid mistake and both submitted and posted wrong answer...
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debezzzz
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:36 pm
wrong?
I am math challenged, so do you think its wrong or not?
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:37 pm
Fruitbat wrote:
markr wrote:
Fruitbat wrote:
Now, you could argue about what is a sensible number of apples in a tree, but that's not really relevant in a mathematical puzzle.


It most certainly is relevant (it's not purely a math problem - apple trees don't exist in mathematics), and the next smallest solution yields an unrealistic number.


Apple trees can exist in mathematics. You just need to devise an axiomatic definition of them. A "tree" is a container for "apples". If you start bringing in "real world" rules like "realistic numbers" of apples, then where do you stop? Do we actually know the maximum number of apples that a tree can produce? How likely is it that an orchard of 15 trees would produce the same number of apples per tree?

In this context (mathematical puzzle), these are not real apple trees. They are abstract constructs and as such can contain any number of "apples" (again abstract) unless defined to have an upper bound.


Take a look at the next smallest solution and try to convince yourself that one apple tree can produce that many apples.

What makes you think that the problem is purely mathematical? By choosing apple trees, the crafter of the problem reduced the number of solutions from infinity to one.
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baconNtofu
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:44 pm
let me try to show it then
--
a.22272
b.24742
c.25862766
d.2674
e. ?
--
1. axb=Z/a
=b
22272 x 24742 = 551052824/a
=551052824/a
=24741.95

--

does that help any more?
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AsherJr
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:49 pm
Not exactly...
That doesn't work because...
axb=ab

ab/a = b

It is always going to be b. Basically you are saying a x b /a. the a's always cancel out...
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Roly Poly Sandwiches
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:52 pm
Quote:
a.22272
b.24742
c.25862766
d.2674
e. ?
--
1. axb=Z/a
=b
22272 x 24742 = 551052824/a
=551052824/a
=24741.95


??????
Your calculations are incorrect
if a*b=Z/a the a's would cancel each other out making b=Z
anyhow i'm not sure how that would work with this puzzle in the first place
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lem
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:54 pm
baconNtofu wrote:
let me try to show it then
--
a.22272
b.24742
c.25862766
d.2674
e. ?
--
1. axb=Z/a
=b
22272 x 24742 = 551052824/a
=551052824/a
=24741.95

--

does that help any more?


Is it just me. Or I get even more confused.
First you multiply first two numbers together? Then your multiplication is wrong: 22272*24742=551053824... If you divide it by a (22272), naturally you'll get your b back.... that is 24742....

But in any case I don't get how this leads you to any solution. Or am I missing some steps?
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fry
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:55 pm
maybe its a pattern.
they all have the same ratio maybe?
or its a different kind of pattern:
each number has a 2 and a 7. ??
or you guys might be right in thinking that it
requires a formula
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AsherJr
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:57 pm
Could this perhaps be a puzzle like the following?:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
13112221
etc.

What is going on there is that you are naming the what happened in the last one.
For example:
1
There is one, 1. 11
There are two, 1s. 21
There is one 2, one 1. 1211
There is one, 1, one 2, two 1s. 111221
etc.

I can tell its not exactly like that, but it might be similar...
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baconNtofu
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:57 pm
it's too late for this ...

lol
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fx904
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:59 pm
27823
is the answer
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AsherJr
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:59 pm
How fx? Explain...
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lem
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 09:59 pm
AsherJr wrote:
Could this perhaps be a puzzle like the following?:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
13112221
etc.

What is going on there is that you are naming the what happened in the last one.
For example:
1
There is one, 1. 11
There are two, 1s. 21
There is one 2, one 1. 1211
There is one, 1, one 2, two 1s. 111221
etc.

I can tell its not exactly like that, but it might be similar...


I too was thinking about this kind of pattern... But it doesn't seem to work here.... At least I can't find a way to fit it into this sequence....
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fx904
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 10:00 pm
it's phone numbers of the neopets in alphabetical order

22272 = acara
24742 = aisha
25862766 = blumaroo
2674 = bori

bruce = 27823
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lil monkey18
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 10:01 pm
AsherJr wrote:
Could this perhaps be a puzzle like the following?:

1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
13112221
etc.

What is going on there is that you are naming the what happened in the last one.
For example:
1
There is one, 1. 11
There are two, 1s. 21
There is one 2, one 1. 1211
There is one, 1, one 2, two 1s. 111221
etc.

I can tell its not exactly like that, but it might be similar...


That was the first thing that popped into my head because I just read that riddle the other day, but I couldn't find anything like that here.
Of course I've never been all that good at number sequences anyway.
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AsherJr
 
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Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 10:01 pm
Phone numbers?
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fry
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 May, 2006 10:01 pm
fx904 wrote:
it's phone numbers of the neopets in alphabetical order

22272 = acara
24742 = aisha
25862766 = blumaroo
2674 = bori

bruce = 27823


wow, i never use abstract thinking
thx
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