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The Verve was or were.....

 
 
Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2017 10:16 pm
Which of the following sentences is correct?

1) The Verve was a British band formed at the beginning of the '90s.

2) The Verve were a British band formed at the beginning of the '90s.

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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2017 05:13 am
@paok1970,
There are going to be different views on this. I would say (without claiming any expertise) that an Englishman would say "were"--because band is a noun known to represent more than one person. For the same reason, an Englishman would say: "The staff were . . . " or "The government were . . ."--both staff and government are singular nouns, but represent more than one person.

Most (but not all) Americans would say "was" precisely because band is a singular noun. An argument can be made on behalf of such a view that one refers to all members of the category "band" in such a locution, and that therefore it should be treated as a singular noun. I consider the attempt to apply logic to language to be foolish. I would personally say "band were," while acknowledging that most of my fellow citizens would likely say "band was."
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2017 10:36 am
In British English it’s absolutely fine to treat most collective nouns as either singular or plural – you can say my husband’s family is very religious or my husband’s family are very religious. There is a choice. The Beatles was a group from Liverpool; the Beatles were four guys with mop-top hair.
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