Vaccination without consent

@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Actually, what I am doing is more "dodging" than stalling. I don't want to get into a meaningless argument with you about something I don't think is relevant. I am avoiding the topic because it is silly.

What is important is the science. If you want to talk about the science, that might be interesting.

I keep saying the same thing; The graphs are irrelevant. What is relevant is the science.

You keep on posting more cherry-picked graphs. This is silly.

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@maxdancona,

I just trashed your "debunker" and you just keep saying that the graphs are irrelevant.

https://i1.wp.com/www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/images/measles.gif

He did not address this graph. Again, what is it about the Official Year Books of the Commonwealth of Australia that you find suspicious? I'm serious. What is it?

https://childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/us-uk-measles-1901-1965.gif?w=468

Nor did he address this graph. Again--in your own words--why do you doubt the source?

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@Glennn,

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I just trashed your "debunker" and you just keep saying that the graphs are irrelevant.

Good, at least you are catching on. What matters is the science.

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@maxdancona,

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What matters is the science.

You won't show that either, so it can't mean that much to you.

You really should explain your mistrust of the sources of the graphs I've posted. When you don't, it gives the impression that you have no case against those sources. I mean, the Official Year Books of the Commonwealth of Australia? Those devious bastards!

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@maxdancona,

Here is the point. Anyone who has at least a 3rd grade education can come up with pretty graphs to support any crazy theory. You see this with the creationists. You see this with climate change deniers. You see this with any number of unscientific ideas, and with the internet it has become even easier.

But this isn't how science works. Scientists do research, they set up controlled experiments, they carefully collect data and record specific conditions, and they write peer reviewed papers.

What is important is the science.

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@maxdancona,

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What is important is the science.

So you say. But that's as far as you go.

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Anyone who has at least a 3rd grade education can come up with pretty graphs

But I didn't come up with those graphs. I've already asked you . . . twice to tell me what you've got against the sources of those graphs. So far, no one knows but you. Care to share?

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@Glennn,

There is not much to say about the science. Every reputable scientific organization has said that vaccinations prevent serious diseases. My scientific training is in Physics, not in epidemiology so I can't tell anything more than the people who are actually doing the science.

Like climate change or evolution, this is settled science. You are only rejecting science because it goes against your ideological beliefs.

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@maxdancona,

Okay, let's see if science has taken away from what the graphs indicate.

http://healthimpactnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/01/us-measles-1024x637.jpg

https://childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/130124-measles-mortality-ons-data-1901-1967.jpg?w=468

https://childhealthsafety.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/0707275measleslog.jpg?w=768

http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/images/measles.gif

Nope. Still there.

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