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THE NAZI THING

 
 
Setanta
 
Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 03:13 am
There have been complaints about people being called Nazis lately. But some things are rather obvious. People who go around giving a straight-arm salute, who wear swastikas and who carry flags with swastikas can reasonably be called Nazis. That happened in Charlottesville. That's a simple case of calling a spade a spade.

But some people here are complaining that it's an attempt to silence free speech. Huh? How goofy is that? Calling someone a Nazi is not going to stop them from exercising their rights of free speech. I have not seen anyone here called a Nazi--I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that I have not seen it. Really, can't people see that when they're complaining about their free speech being threatened, while they're posting at a discussion board, that they're making fools of themselves? Shades of Whackeye--he always used to complaining that his rights of free speech were denied, and that while he posted here nearly every day. Get a grip, folks. If you're posting here, it's more than a little silly to complain that your right of free speech is being denied.

All right, everyone go to a neutral corner, and when you come out swinging, try not to put anyone's eye out.
 
centrox
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 03:19 am
"Why do they keep calling me a Nazi?"
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/hitlerparody/images/a/aa/Hitler-finds-out.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130704032316
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 11:20 am
Ah-hahahahahahahahahaha . . .

You know, when Mr. Obama was elected, the right-wing hysteria here was a treat. They call people "liberals" who are to the left in the same way the Tatars were to the left of the Mongols. Hypocrisy flourishes. One right-wing loon here started a thread in which he tried to claim that Nazis were leftists. The basis for his claim was the appearance of the word "Socialist" in National Socialist German Workers' Party. For the last eight years, right-wingers have routinely compared "leftists" to Nazis. Heaven forfend that anyone should tar them with the same brush.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 12:22 pm


Quote:
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay!
We're marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Rhineland's a fine land once more!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Watch out, Europe
We're going on tour!
Springtime for Hitler and Germany...
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 01:58 pm
What I find disturbing about this thread is that there might be a popular notion that Naziism should be relegated to the fringe, and therefore all good mainstream folk should stop this train of thought, since it is pointless at this time. However, one can make an argument, in my opinion, that is if one does not like the Palestinian/Israeli debacle, one might be more honest to see Naziism as the first domino pushed over, and so many years later a cantankerous Israel may yet make for more middle east wars? Naziism is an idea, and ideas cannot be ended. They just go underground.

What is laughable, in my opinion, is that while some Jews say Israel needs to exist because of what the Nazis did, leftest anti-Israel folk call people Nazis as an epithet, as though the belief system does not exist in reality, only as an adhominem. I guess the word "Nazi" has become just an epithet that hides the nuances of the belief system, in my opinion.


Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 02:16 pm
Another idiot heard from. No surprise that Miller/Foofie would defend the practice.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 03:15 pm
@Foofie,
Nothing new eh.

German Nazis killed Jews.

Modern American Nazis say that was fine and is fine since Jews aren't white.

dreadful to relegate that kind of thinking to the fringe? nope. I want that kind of thinking to be wiped out. It won't happen in my lifetime, but no one's going to say that it is acceptable thinking in my presence and not get feedback.

maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 06:35 pm
@ehBeth,
The problem is that these days, everyone is a "Nazi".

- People who are against gay marriage are Nazis.
- People who want to force Christians to make gay cakes for these marriages are Nazis.
- People who support Israeli settlements on the West Bank are Nazis.
- People who oppose Israeli settlements are Nazis.
- People who want to end abortion are Nazis.
- People who want to keep abortion legal are Nazis.
- George Bush was a Nazi for Guantanamo.
- Obama was a Nazi for forcing people to buy health care.
- Feminists are Nazis (or "feminazis").
- Anti-Feminists are Nazis.
- The guy fired from Google for insulting women is now a Nazi.

It is getting a little ridiculous. If everyone is a "Nazi", then the term stops meaning anything. What made the actual Nazis into the symbol of evil wasn't their position on gay cakes, health care or abortion. What made them evil was their plan to systematically wipe out a race of people by murdering millions of people in gas chambers. When you think about what the real Nazis did, your silly little political issues aren't so important. Sorry for saying that, but it's true.

(And yes, anyone who thumbs down this post... is definitely a Nazi. Wink ).

emmett grogan
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 07:15 pm
@maxdancona,
I have no problem with folks who identify them selves as Nazis being called Nazis.

Do you have a problem with calling these guys Nazis???

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2017/08/063_830755842-e1502559266162.jpg

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/former-teacher-says-charlottesville-attacker-nazi-sympathizer.jpg
https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/1.png

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 07:20 pm
@emmett grogan,
Again you and I agree.

I will call someone a Nazi under two circumstances.

1) They self-identify as Nazis. "Heil-Hitler" salutes and swatstika flags are clearly an example of this.

2) They advocate a systematic racial genocide. This means that they actually want to kill millions of people based on their race.

In my opinion, other than these two groups, no one should be called a Nazi.
Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 28 Aug, 2017 07:45 pm
@maxdancona,
Quote:
In my opinion, other than these two groups, no one should be called a Nazi.

Ah Ha! That's something that only a Nazi would say.

Smile
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 01:56 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

The problem is that these days, everyone is a "Nazi".

- People who are against gay marriage are Nazis.
- People who want to force Christians to make gay cakes for these marriages are Nazis.
- People who support Israeli settlements on the West Bank are Nazis.
- People who oppose Israeli settlements are Nazis.
- People who want to end abortion are Nazis.
- People who want to keep abortion legal are Nazis.
- George Bush was a Nazi for Guantanamo.
- Obama was a Nazi for forcing people to buy health care.
- Feminists are Nazis (or "feminazis").
- Anti-Feminists are Nazis.
- The guy fired from Google for insulting women is now a Nazi.

It is getting a little ridiculous. If everyone is a "Nazi", then the term stops meaning anything. What made the actual Nazis into the symbol of evil wasn't their position on gay cakes, health care or abortion. What made them evil was their plan to systematically wipe out a race of people by murdering millions of people in gas chambers. When you think about what the real Nazis did, your silly little political issues aren't so important. Sorry for saying that, but it's true.

(And yes, anyone who thumbs down this post... is definitely a Nazi. Wink ).




Thank-you for clarifying my previous post that might have been to circumlocutious for all to understand. You neatly gave examples.

I would guess your years as an educator makes you wary of giving your audience too much credit.

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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 29 Aug, 2017 02:16 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

Nothing new eh.

German Nazis killed Jews.

Modern American Nazis say that was fine and is fine since Jews aren't white.

dreadful to relegate that kind of thinking to the fringe? nope. I want that kind of thinking to be wiped out. It won't happen in my lifetime, but no one's going to say that it is acceptable thinking in my presence and not get feedback.




Madel, there are plenty of Jew haters around that see many blonde, blue-eyed Jews around (especially the children of the orthodox, and ultra orthodox) that could care less whether Jews are white or not. They hate Jews because it was the culture of their ancestors in Europe, and they enjoy the camaraderie of Jew haters. Why do you think the New York Irish were known anti-Semites back in the 20th century? Irish themselves were not considered white when they first arrived. Jews were just too different; able to survive in a country based on their own entrepreneurial ability, while other groups needed a job, or the family would starve.

And, as we move farther into a culture where only the highly educated won't be automated into superfluousness, the obsession with education that so many Jews effect is quite a reason to hate them, if one remembers the good old days when brawn made one able to function in the working world, rather than having to get advanced degrees to make a living.

The simple answer is that Jews have been doing brain exercises for 3,500 years by being literate, while Protestants with just 500 years of literacy have done a nice job of epigenetics also. What is the sad truth is that Jews might be obnoxious by acting superior, but its their obsession with education amongst other things, that also makes them obnoxious and then persona non grata, not just to Nazis. That might be good for practicing one's humility?

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