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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 12:02 pm
Should I use "that" or "who" in the sentence below?

I know many people that / who think (that) he should resign.

Also, is the use of "that" optional in the above case?

Thank you.
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centrox
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 12:30 pm
You can use either 'that' or 'who'. You must use one or the other.
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camlok
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 12:31 pm
@paok1970,
As the relative pronoun, either who or that is possible but either one is not optional, ie. it cannot be dropped.

Beat me by a minute, centrox.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 01:47 pm
@paok1970,
You can go with either I know many people that think he should resign or I know many people who think he should resign.

The use of the word that later in the sentence is not necessary.
camlok
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:12 pm
@Sturgis,
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The use of the word that later in the sentence is not necessary.


Why?
Sturgis
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:26 pm
@camlok,
The entire message is conveyed without the word that being added. It is stated, "many people think" the person should resign.
camlok
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:30 pm
@Sturgis,
Since it IS optional, "The entire message is conveyed without the word that being added" seemingly makes no nevermind, wouldn't you say, Sturgis?
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centrox
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:36 pm
Using the empty complementiser 'that' is optional. Opting to not use it is slightly more idiomatic than using it.
camlok
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:50 pm
@centrox,
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Using the empty complementiser


Grammatical choices are not "empty". If they are grammatical, and this one is, how can it be considered empty?

That doesn't sound very academic. That sounds very emptily prescriptive, which, as we all know, means empty.

Many grammatical options are retained for the more formal. Are these then to be considered 'empty'?

What is wrong with using science as regards these issues?
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camlok
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jul, 2017 02:52 pm
@centrox,
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Opting to not use it is slightly more idiomatic than using it.


Agreed as to "more idiomatic than using it" though I'm not sure on the "slightly" portion.
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