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Are capitalism and nationalism systematic genocide?

 
 
D45ist
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 10:06 am
@izzythepush,
The good old days were no were near that long ago. The Dem plantation is equally as bad. Pay em to have babies, raise those babies without fathers and stay unemployed. Pay women to have babies with men they know will mostly stay in jail and get that govt child support. That is better. Your policies ruined an entire race. Black people should hate you.

Liberals want to claim their anti-capitalist then force people to purchase health care at inflated prices and with less benefits. Heck, you all can't even smoke a little pot without turning it into a capitalistic enterprise. Used to be a look the other way illegal activity for the casual user. Now it's a synthetic mess.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 11:38 am
@izzythepush,
Only a turd brain would post such a graphic depiction, what next babies getting raped?

Couldn't your point have been made in a more subtle way?

Did you secretly get a thrill posting this Izzy?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 11:39 am
@D45ist ,
I don't debate with fascists, I don't want to give their repulsive views or their filthy religion legitimacy. I know what you are, and I'm not the only one.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 11:40 am
@TheCobbler,
TheCobbler wrote:

what next babies getting raped?


Spare me your sick fantasies.
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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 01:56 pm
@TheCobbler,
Give me a break, Cobbler! You're not reacting out of principle. You're just reacting out of a childish grudge against Izzy. In fact, you're hounding him.

I have no problem with such "graphic depictions" to get people to deal with the reality of the past (or present). "A picture is worth a thousand words." It's called evidence. I guess, according to your judgment, no one should post photographic images of the carnage in Nazi concentration camps. After all, they're so "graphic"! If you have no problem with such photos, then you're being inconsistent.

Give it up, Cobbler. You actually have far more agreements with Izzy than disagreements. So he rubbed you the wrong way. Get over it and move on.
D45ist
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2017 11:21 pm
@wmwcjr,
His evidence is 100 years old. And guess who strung them up? Dems.

So....is the world still holding it against Dems that they kept slaves and even fought a war to keep their slaves?

Jesus, SFB.
Thomas33
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 06:14 am
@D45ist ,
Is capitalism wrong to need socialism?
D45ist
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2017 09:13 pm
@Thomas33,
Name me ONE socialist country that is more successful than the USA and we can have a discussion. Since you will not be able to, I'm pretty sure we are done.
Thomas33
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 04:34 am
@D45ist ,
Is capitalism wrong to need and oppose interaction? The last I checked, socialism doesn't need to oppose what it needs
D45ist
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 05:39 pm
@Thomas33,
If socialism worked people would not be leaving socialist countries to come HERE. Socialism has not benefited any people in any country on our planet.

You do understand WHY this country was founded, don't you?
Thomas33
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 07:52 pm
@D45ist ,
Any country is founded because people can't trust other people to share power and territory. Not only that, but unlike capitalism, socialism doesn't have to oppose the replication that it needs in order to function
D45ist
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 08:21 pm
@Thomas33,
Socialism has proven itself as a tool for govt to take advantage of The People.

This country was founded so that the govt could not do that. Unfortunately, Dems keep voting to give the govt more and more power and head us straight into the kind of govt we purposely left, fought wars and founded a new country to avoid.

Your govt does not now and will NEVER take better care of you than you can. I do not understand why a person would vote to pay 10x more for a service and give a govt the the right to tell them how they can use it.

If you were old now (like me) and experienced this country before the shift left of the 1960s, you would be amazed at how different the country is now (in a bad way) and the level of respect the government used to treat us with. That was back when We The People still had control of the govt We The People own.

YOU Own the business. Why do you want to give control of it away?

An adult has experienced govt services and knows they are badly done and extremely costly.

Been to the post office? Crappy rude overpriced service. Been to the DMV, crappy rude overpriced service. Been to a VA hospital really crappy rude service. Before Obamacare my health insurance cost 350.00 per month. Now it costs 750.00 and covers A LOT less.

Before student loans ANYONE could afford college. Classes were not auditoriums, football teams were earning millions and college was 12.00 a credit hour at a Big 10 school. Govt student loans drove the price up.

ANYTIME the govt gets involved you are guaranteed that whatever it is is going to hell in a handbasket.

So why do you want to give up control of your life and money to this entity that has proven itself wasteful and corrupt? No one will ever take care of your money and your life as well as you can.

Young people today feel so incapable and insufficient. It's so sad. Probably because you were raised in day care and had no parents.
Thomas33
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 08:27 pm
@D45ist ,
Is capitalism wrong to need and oppose interaction?
D45ist
 
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Reply Sat 17 Jun, 2017 08:46 pm
@Thomas33,
Thomas, am I doing your summer semester homework? This sounds like some new tangled way to analyze capitalism. Post my education, but I do not care what new dangled BS words you put to it you'll not impress or convince me. c
I lived this.

My grandfather (a legal immigrant) with the requisite 50.00 for entry came to this country with a third grade education, no English language and a peasant farmer's skills. In less than a decade he owned two grocery stores, and soon after a hotel and several rental homes. THAT is the American dream. He was able to do this because the govt stayed out of people's lives, taxes were low and wages were high compared to the cost of living. Capitalism at its finest.

Most college graduates today will not achieve what he was able to. Heck, most will never own a home. But, they will be able to repeat their liberal ullshit phrases at someone in a condescending manner even though they can't find their ass with two hands.

Every thing liberals vote for moves that dream farther and farther away until its almost non-existent. Back in the day we called that shooting yourself in the foot.

You think you're so progressive and modern, but you're actually going backward. What your asking for is to be subjects to royalty again. Peon.
Thomas33
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jun, 2017 05:46 am
@D45ist ,
Monarchy, militaries and business are terrorism - and also, business and borders prevent planets and trees from being able to see thoughts and opinions

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wmwcjr
 
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Reply Sun 18 Jun, 2017 01:22 pm
@D45ist ,
D45ist wrote:
SFB


I did a Google search on this item to find out what it stands for. It has several possible meanings. Do you mean "Sh*t for Brains"? Just curious.
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camlok
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jun, 2017 09:04 am
@D45ist ,
Quote:
Socialism has proven itself as a tool for govt to take advantage of The People.

This country was founded so that the govt could not do that. Unfortunately, Dems keep voting to give the govt more and more power and head us straight into the kind of govt we purposely left, fought wars and founded a new country to avoid.


How can you advance such nonsense when the US has been at war for over 90% of its years as a country? When the US was founded on terrorism and genocide?
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MethSaferThanTHC
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2017 04:56 am
@camlok,
The usa is a prison?!
coluber2001
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jul, 2017 11:46 am
I don't know if it's a good idea to defend either socialism or capitalism en masse and to present the USA as the vanguard of capitalism monolithically, right or wrong. It's impossible to defend or reject totally.

There are enormous problems, basic egregious problems that will never be solved from the top down, but that the change must come from the bottom up. This is unlikely to happen in the near future. One is the view towards death. Essentially, compassion is illegal. What happened to Dr. Kevorkian says it all.

Another is the disgraceful, scandalous, and barbaric prison system fostered by the childish attitude that the function of a prison is to punish the offender. This is evidence that the American psyche is in an arrested state of emotional and spiritual development. Look to Germany to see where that attitude takes us and see how Germany has emerged from its own ashes to become progressive.
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coluber2001
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jul, 2017 12:35 pm
Essentially, I think, it's a matter of balance. No country can become totally capitalistic or totally socialistic.

Consider the fire department. At one time fires were put out by insurance companies with their own equipment. When they got a call they would rush out with their engines, and if the building had a plaque on it identifying it as their insured, they put the fire out. If not they let it burn. The problem is if the building next door's not insured, then it spreads.
The police can't be for-profit either, or else they start 'protection' rackets. Is healthcare for profit workable for everybody?

If people aren't allowed to sell what they make on their own, some may start losing their creativity. The USSR tried that and they got a lot of corruption and an enormous bureaucracy.

Basically, I think you have to have a balance. That's something we've never been very good at. We tend to take one position and then find an enemy to oppose. The whole identity of our country from the beginning was to take a position and then find an enemy to oppose and reinforce that position. That was what united us. It seems that when we don't have an external enemy, we split within and find our
enemies in our own country. Joseph Heller said, "America couldn't survive without an enemy." Was he right?

France has a motto of balance: Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood."

The motto of the U.S. is "Freedom." The motto of the Soviet Union was "Equality." So how can you have one without the other? Only with imbalance. We had a cold war. Freedom against equality, equality against freedom. That didn't work too well. We came within one man of havng a nuclear war.

Now we have no external enemy. Our country has split into two warring factions.
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