camlok wrote:
Paul Ryan - To deliberately target innocent children is cowardice in its most heinous form.
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Do you mean with cluster bombs, phosphorus bombs, napalm, two ton trucks, carpet bombing, drones, ..., Paul?
oralloy: I doubt that you can produce credible accounts of the US targeting children with these or any other weapons.
camlok wrote:
Or maybe you are referring to the half million Iraqi children you were able to slaughter in the 1990s with the help of the poodle UK.
oralloy: I question whether the half million figure is even true. But even if it is, your accusation here is hardly fair.
The sanctions on Iraq were the world's response to Saddam's horrible crimes. He is the one who is responsible for those sanctions.
And if the brunt of the sanctions harmed the very poor while Saddam's inner circle lived high on the hog, that was due to Saddam's own corruption.
Perhaps lessons should be learned here so that future sanctions are less easy for a dictator to deflect onto the poor. But to blame anyone other than Saddam for what happened is grossly unfair. The alternative to sanctions, after all, would have been a return to war, which would have meant more bombs being dropped on Iraq.
And I doubt that these figures of a half million dead children are even accurate.
https://able2know.org/topic/267070-361#top
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Killing Children Is the All-American Way
by Finian Cunningham / December 22nd, 2012
Madeleine Albright, the American ambassador the United Nations, was asked on nationwide television in 1996 if the death of half a million Iraqi children from US war and sanctions on that country was a price worth paying. Albright replied: “This is a very hard choice, but the price – we think is worth it.
That was before the so-called Second Persian Gulf War that began in 2003 with American air force “shock and awe”, followed by nearly nine years of illegal military occupation – an occupation that included the use of nuclear munitions and white phosphorus on the civilian populations in Fallujah and elsewhere, and involved countless massacres of families and children by US helicopter gunships and troopers.
Since Albright’s infamous admission, the death toll of Iraqi children from American military crimes can be safely assumed to run into multiples of what she candidly thought was a price worth paying more than 16 years ago.
Earlier this week when President Barack Obama was offering condolences to the families of the 20 children shot dead in an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, he said: “Whatever portion of sadness that can share with you to ease your heavy load, we will gladly bear it. Newtown, you are not alone.”
Indeed, Newtown is not alone. Children are slaughtered every week by Americans all over the world on the watch of Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama and his White House predecessors.
One study by James Lucas in 2007 put the death toll of civilians from American wars and sponsored conflicts in 37 countries since the Second World War at up to 30 million lives. The proportion of that figure corresponding to child deaths is not known but if the casualty rate of Iraq is anything to go by, we can estimate that the number of children killed by American militarism and covert wars since WWII is easily in the order of 20 million – that is, a million times the carnage last week in Connecticut.
The countries where these American-inflicted deaths occurred include: Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Angola, Congo, Afghanistan, Pakistan, El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua. They also include Iran during the American-backed Iraq war of 1980-88. Every continent on Earth has felt the American hand of death.
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http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/killing-children-is-the-all-american-way/
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