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....And the answer is..................................

 
 
Raggedyaggie
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 09:30 am
Letty: Al Hirschfield hid his niece's name Nina in his drawings and so did the N.Y. Times Crossword Puzzle I worked last week. I thought it was a "nine", too. Laughing
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 10:19 am
Raggedy and hiama, you clever things. I'm beginning to feel like John's "big girl's blouse" Crying or Very sad

Uhoh. Now hiama is in the land of the Dolly Llama. Smile

I'm beginning to believe that like Hank Snow, the singing ranger:

He's been everywhere, man. He's been everywhere.
(Here comes Hank Snow, I gotta go and I'm movin' on)

But not before I ask one more question:
There is a painting, drawing, etching (only saw a picture in a text book)
in black and white captioned "Still Born Knowledge" and I cannot find one bit of info regarding it.
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hiama
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 10:37 am
This I think refers to one of a series of frescos by Orozco at Dartmouth College. These frescoes are located in the reserve room in the basement of the Baker Library and are on permanent exhibit at the College.

JosÉ Clemente Orozco came to Dartmouth in May, 1932 as a visiting lecturer in the department of art. He was commissioned to teach the technique of fresco painting and did this by painting a small fresco in the reserve room corridor, entitled Man Released from the Mechanistic to the Creative Life.

During his visit, Orozco realized that the blank walls of the reserve book room would enable him to paint the "greatest work of his career", an epic of civilization on the American continent. The room was painted with a series of twenty four panels depicting American civilization from the Aztecs to the arrival of the white man. An interpretation of his work was published by Dartmouth College in 1934 upon completion of the mural, and republished in 1962.

The " Stillborn knowledge" refers to one of the 24 panels and is part of the work known as "Gods of the modern world" itself part of "The Departure of Quetzalcoatl".

Orozco protests in this panel against the fetish worship of dead knowledge for its own sake. The panel is analogous to the fourth panel, depicting the gods of the ancient world who were displaced by Quetzalcoatl. Stillborn knowledge is shown being delivered from a skeleton parent, couched on ponderous tomes, by the pedantically solicitous hands of a skeletal obstetrician in academic gown. The "gods of the modern world" are pictured in the academic costume of various universities, European and American. A lurid background suggests a world aflame, whose salvation lies not in the exegeses of old thought. In the powerful negation of this mural, Orozco calls for a new positiveness in the creative use of knowledge. He conjures away the sterile ritual of dead things giving birth to dead things. Here he protests against intellectual bondage, as in the next two panels he protests against the political and spiritual bondage of our time.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 10:57 am
I don't really have time to read all of these seven pages, Letty, so i will reply as though one of your original questions has not been answered.

The "Golden Mean" refers to a line formed from two shorter lines of which the shorter bears the same relationship to the longer as does the longer to the sum of the two lines. An Italian mathematical genius, held in low repute in his home town, and therefore known as Fibbonacci the Idiot, came up with a numerical relationship which expresses this: starting with the number 1, the original number is added to the next number in the sequence, to further the sequence. Hence, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, etc.

If you construct rectangles, the sides of which bear this relationship, creating from each rectangle a larger rectangle which preserves the proportion, and then form a square inside each rectangle, with the dimensions of the shorter side, you can then draw two lines connecting the corners of the squares, and lines drawn between the centers of the squares will form the spiral to which you refer. It is damned difficult for me to describe this to you, since i am an ace at geometry, and dismal at math.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 11:00 am
Oh, and i have a link for you on this specific topic:

Fibonacci the Idiot really wasn't

This guy doesn't have a very clearly constructed site, but he has good links there.
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 11:34 am
Thanks, Setanta, I was most interested in the "Golden Spiral" part of Fibonacci's fantastic geometric design because it seemed to be an attempt at defining "beauty" from a mathematical viewpoint; i.e. the chambered nautilus--the curve of a wave--the fetus..

hiama, Well, I'll be damned. That's it! That's it! Charcoal frescoes by Orozco; pretty gruesome but definitely depictive of certain academia. Thanks in geometric progressions. Smile
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hiama
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2003 12:12 pm
A votre service Madame
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 08:25 am
What do people prefer ,,,,,,,, a loving kiss goodnight or a warm & cozy goodmorning kiss
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hiama
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 09:29 am
I'd go for both every time
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 10:53 am
Hey, John and hiama,

Ah, I love "A kiss to Build a Dream on", but then again, I'm equally fond of ....................how do you like your eggs in the morning, I like mine with a kiss.

Unfortunately, I stayed up all night watching Godfather II and when Michael kissed Fredo, that was a kiss of another kind Shocked

You Brits be good, but WOW those EYEtalions! Laughing
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 11:03 am
EYEtalions ? don't you mean Stalions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 12:00 pm
Ok, another question then:

There are two celebs who have the same nickname. One is the Italian stallion, and the other is a Brit (I think)

Who are they and for what are they known?
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 12:53 pm
well Ben Hur was Italian or something like that and was a Rome taxi driver, but coz he prefered horses to soddng great Ferrari V8s
he know as the Italian Luddite

Then there was Maggie Thatcher who was a womens accessories model, who specialised in purses and who was know as the Iron Maiden coz she was a rock groupie who never got into 21st century rock, she was known as the New English Luddite

Liked Hur but not Ben
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 01:27 pm
John, I've ben hur most of my life. Very Happy
and don't you find it interesting that Lew Wallace of Indiana wrote Ben Hur? With a name like "Wallace" that would make him an American Scot who wrote about Italia and the roman' Romans who roamed all over the place.

And as for your "Iron Maiden", she was probably "Maid in America" at one time. Razz

Goodgracioussakesalive, our Steel Magnolia was about as foxy as Sly stallion. (there's a clue hidden in that mess, somewhere). I suppose Rosalyn and Maggie would both like to have their picture on the cover of the Rollin' Stone. In comparison to those two, we're all luddites.

And a wee compliment. (loved your response)
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 01:36 pm
gawd 'n bennet Lettie. your responce sounds like rocket science or else I'm hanging precariously from the chandelier and revolving counter clockwise
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 01:36 pm
gawd 'n bennet Lettie. your responce sounds like rocket science or else I'm hanging precariously from the chandelier and revolving counter clockwise
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 02:18 pm
Well, John. I wanted to know who was dubbed The Italian Stallion in movies and if there were a counterpart to him in British rock music. maybe they are one and the same.

And along the same line as rocket scientist, who was the father of the rocket? Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 02:51 pm
Godard?
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oldandknew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 02:54 pm
the rocket had 2 fathers, strange but true ----------------------
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Letty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 03:13 pm
C.I., Goddard was the one that I had in mind, but I should have elaborated that I was referring to rockets that go up in the air as opposed to along the ground.

John, That is absolutely fabulous information and beautifully explained. You have inspired me to do further research.
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