Helsinki Commission Condemns Pending Legal Action against Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia

Theres plwnty of wvienc of dscrimintion ginst the JW;s in mot "civilized countries" (US, UK, Cnda, Oz tc etc)
In the US, our fip flop history of enforcement of the 1sr Amndment has had it tims when "freedom of and From Religion" is ignored. In the late 1940's in Pa (Minersville , a mostly Sokol Catholic town) JW,s took caae to the USSC because thy were required to salute the flg (JW's are like AMISH in that respect, they believe in a higher govt district).
SO, in a famous USSC decision ( Minersville School Diatrict v Gobitis), it was like 7 to 2 AGAINST the JW's because the USSC majority felt that a "little patriotism and flag respect iss a small thing to expect of a citizen, despite religious beliefs-)
This was later overturned (By extension) in YODER v Wisconsin.

In Russia its pretty much the same except the JW, by acting separate from earthly govt were , considered "terrorists" Cnda and UK actually jailed them so, pretty much everybody has some degree of shame on us to admit to.

ven though thy can be the biggest pains in the ass for religions, they are OUR pqins in the ass and subject to the same rights and privileges as anyone else. We are gonna get this "democracy thing" right soon as we can get rid of this douche bag president

Will it be IPA? Please don't make me drink Guinness.

Oh. Did you want me to bring beer?

Well, OK this once. . .

Our literature is free, so I have no idea what you expect we might be selling.

I have enjoyed many of your insightful and clever comments and must agree that I also take some relief that only about 5% of people might wish us harm.

But you must know your response is a non sequitur when applied to the perfection promised Adam and Eve. For a moment, apply your 5% rule to the water you hope to drink or the air you wish to breathe. . .

Do you believe God is satisfied with 5%?

If you send me your address, I'll knock on your door and we can commiserate about our geezerhood.

My guess is the Russian Orthodox Church is behind this claim. They are particularly at odds with the teachings of the JWs.

None of the terrorist attacks perpetrated on Russian soil are in any way connected with JWs.

Guiness is not an entirely a vile beer. Its no Yuengling's but it will keep you hydrated

Yeah, but you'd have to walk through my growing weedpatch (I used to be a swell gardener, I swear).

I remember that we are quite close in age, I say, smiling. That sure crept up fast, I say in retrospect.

A year or two ago, a mormon type knock on door guy stopped to talk to me re religion while I was planting some drought tolerant grey plants in my wee front yard, names I now don't remember, but maybe I left a tag or, more likely, listed in my garden file... and I said I wasn't interested. He believed me, but I wasn't a meanie. We ended up talking plants instead, pleasant few minutes, ending with slight waves from each of us.

That makes sense.

JWs are not the only door knockers. Mormons do that here. I have refused to talk to them, but they used to come here until I got a bit rude.

Rude? Nah,
Just direct.

I don't let any type of salesman feel welcome at my door. Just a quirk of mine.

First Russia, next, the world.

Truly, man's self-governance is nigh.

I'm glad JW isn't considered above the law.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/jehovahs-witnesses-congregations-efforts-to-block-inquiry-squashed?CMP=twt_gu

I read that, earlier today, interesting.

I haven't noticed others posting this, so I'll add it now:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2017/mar/09/in-russia-the-persecution-of-jehovahs-witnesses-begins-all-over-again
It's slightly old news, but I'd not seen it before.

It may be of interest to note there were more JWs in Germany at the end of WW II than at the start.

I wish I could say something like that could never happen. But JWs are not perfect. We have our share of members who fall into criminal behavior. And, in the past we apparently had been remiss in our handling of suspected child abuse.

Yet this seems out of the ordinary.

Responsible elders I know of handle such cases with a great deal more empathy towards victims and scrutiny of offenders. So, perhaps there is more here than was written.

Russian Supreme court just ruled against JWs.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/04/20/russian-court-bans-jehovahs-witnesses-extremist-group/100701524/

The work won't stop. Virtually all nations who have banned our work have experienced a growth in our membership.

Go figure.

As you well know I'm not interested, except that I am not for shutting people down.

Usually

Ive gotta say, the genius of the first Amendment of the US Constitution shows through.

Is funny , I dont hear the whiney support of putin by guys like gungasnake on this issue.
Im confused though, why is the Russian Supreme Court Decision Appeal able. Whats the point of a Supreme Court at all?.
Sounds like a Chinese contract nwgotiation

OSSO
OOC--Out of country (Im back now), "bars" the other folk wqs correct, my cell phone was spotty at best. Id down load some crap from A2k while I was in the plane and read, reply, and cut and paste when I had enough bars to send. Im sure the mods see m going in and out from 3 icp's

IN Russia, the Amish re an outlwaed group as ell. Any "Severe" Anabaptists would be so designated I believe.

Russia, besides the nation of incompetent imbeciles, is a nation living in paranoia