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shortly later

 
 
Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 07:49 am
Lim was arrested shortly later near Teban Gardens by other police officers.

Is "shortly later" correct?

Thanks.
 
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 08:12 am
@tanguatlay,

no.

i would use "a short time later" instead...
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 09:00 am
@Region Philbis,
Region Philbis wrote:

no.
i would use "a short time later" instead...
I thought of "shortly after". Is it OK?

"shortly later" was the reporter's version.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 12:27 pm
@tanguatlay,

if you say "shortly after", you also have to indicate what happened before...

"Lim was arrested by police officers near Teban Gardens shortly after he escaped from prison."



i suppose you could say "shortly thereafter"...

"Lim was arrested by police officers near Teban Gardens shortly thereafter."
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 01:03 pm
Famous (at least to British school kids of the 1950s) example of a wrong meaning caused by lack of punctuation:

King Charles walked and talked shortly after his head was cut off.
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 01:04 pm
@tanguatlay,
tanguatlay wrote:

Lim was arrested shortly later near Teban Gardens by other police officers.

Is "shortly later" correct?

Thanks.

No. Shortly after.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 03:14 pm
@contrex,
Okay Con, "after" is collo but what's wrong w/ "later"
contrex
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 03:17 pm
@dalehileman,
dalehileman wrote:

Okay Con, "after" is collo but what's wrong w/ "later"

I keep forgetting exactly what it is you mean by "collo". You use it a lot. Is it short for "colloquial"? If so you are mistaken.

You can't say "shortly later".
dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 03:19 pm
@contrex,
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short for "colloquial"?
Si

Quote:
If so you are mistaken.
Okay Con but how exactly

Quote:
You can't say "shortly later".
Why not
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contrex
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 04:43 pm
Colloquial means 'informal', slangy', 'dialect', 'not literary' etc. Saying 'shortly after' is perfectly formal and correct.

"Shortly later" is definitely not usual. It’s not unusual to have one adverb modifying another (as in “rather soon” or “relatively later”), but a combination like “shortly later” sounds clunky to our ears.

I think that when people from (say) Singapore, who are ESL learners, come on here asking "can I say this?" they are usually asking about standard English, and it does no good at all to say that non-standard things (that nobody says) are kind of OK really because er, well, why not?

dalehileman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 05:19 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
Colloquial means 'informal', slangy', 'dialect'
True Con but also means 'everyday'

https://www.google.com/?client=safari&channel=mac_bm#channel=mac_bm&q=define+colloquial

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"Shortly later" ...not usual....but ... sounds clunky...
Yea Con, agreed, it does. However is it really wrong

Quote:
no good at all to say... non-standard things
Point well taken
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Wed 14 Dec, 2016 11:49 pm
Thanks, everybody.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Dec, 2016 12:03 pm
@tanguatlay,
Welcome Tang, from me and Con, we love ya
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