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Is Jesus true man AND true God?

 
 
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2016 05:06 am
@trevorw2539,
trevorw2539 wrote:
Then why does Matthew quote the OT when trying to prove Jesus was divine? Why is Christianity based on the belief that the OT prophesies foretell the coming of Jesus?

My reply:
Is it only Matthew that quotes the Old Testament where Jesus was divine? The OT prophecies foretell the coming of Jesus because the author of the OT is God Himself. If you were to believe in a god, be sure that He is the true God. The true God is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Omniscient is knowing everything, including what happened in the past and what will happen in the future.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2016 12:35 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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The OT prophecies foretell the coming of Jesus because the author of the OT is God Himself.


This is too funny! You can't have an invisible rabbit being the author of anything. That's basic common sense. Only man can author anything on this planet.
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trevorw2539
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2016 10:12 am
@peacecrusader888,
According to History Omniscience got a few things wrong.

IF 'Moses' wrote the Pentateuch he should have known that Abraham was not from Ur 'of the Chaldeans' because the Chaldeans came 1,000 years after the Chronological date for Abraham. He should have known that Abraham could not have bought his/Sarai's tomb from the Hittites as they, too, didn't appear till much later. IF 'Moses' had existed in a Pharaoh's palace he could possibly have met a Hittite courier himself, so he would have known their history.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2016 05:02 pm
Does anyone know how today 12/22 is relative to religion? Is this the day after the winter solstice?
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2016 07:30 pm
@trevorw2539,
When was Abraham born? Ur of the Chaldees is in Genesis 11:28, 31.
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2016 07:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
When was Jesus Christ really born?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2016 08:17 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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When was Jesus Christ really born?


I am not sure but if I were to give my hypothesis I would say that he was born soon after the Therapeutaes and Therapeutrides the came to be and then he died shortly after they were wiped out of existence because of their teachings.

Empathic people who taught us that it was OK to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil .... "The understanding of ethics".... "Moral Philosophy",... were killed off by those in power. Our alpha male leaders also taught us that they were our gods.
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trevorw2539
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2016 12:43 pm
@peacecrusader888,
Ur at the chronological time of Abraham was under control of Akkadians or Sumerians - depending of the actual time. About the same time it was then destroyed. 2,100-2,000 BCE
The Chaldeans were part of the NeoBabylonian empire 1,000 years later.
Therefore it could not be 'of the Chaldees'.
BUT if, as I am sure, the Hebrew Pentateuch was written by scribes around 700BCE, the scribes of the time would have thought of it in the terms of being where the Chaldeans of the recent NeoBabylonian had existed.
If 'Moses' had existed he would never have heard of the Chaldeans - centuries in the future.
The scribes wrote a history for the Jews while they were in exile. And they got their history wrong when they wrote their stories. 'Historical' novels, based around known places,

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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2016 04:55 pm
Did you know that Abram, later renamed Abraham, was born in 2217 BC? This is in http://aristean.org/wp082.htm . He departed from Haran he was 75 lunar years old in 2144 BC.
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 06:54 pm
Jesus is true man. He is not a "fairy tale". Jesus is also true God. He forgives sinners. Only God forgives sinners. But Jesus and the Father are one (John 10;30). If you have seen Jesus, you have seen the Father (John 14:9).
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2017 07:01 pm
@peacecrusader888,
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Jesus is true man. He is not a "fairy tale".


Jesus is a made up word, Do you know how old the word Jesus is?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2017 01:06 am
@peacecrusader888,
What do you mean by "true man"?

An honest man who drinks fresh spring water to quench his thirst is grateful to Mother Nature for bestowing him the water. Jesus drank water everyday, yet he's not only ungrateful but also claimed that water was made by himself/his so-called father. He's dishonest. He's no true man. He's false.

Before his so called father's six-day creation, water was/is already there. Mother Nature was/is already there, because She, like water, is made of fundamental particles... and space (where the water dwells in) and time (which is inherent nature of particles)...


peacecrusader888 wrote:

Jesus is true man.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2017 07:36 am
@oristarA,
Please give the credit back to Mother Nature, Mr. Jesus. Thank you.

Most materials of life are not created by you (or your "father"):

http://www.petsafe.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/Capture7.jpg

More opinions:

Answer: The amount of water in the human body ranges from 50-75%. The average adult human body is 50-65% water, averaging around 57-60%. The percentage of water in infants is much higher, typically around 75-78% water, dropping to 65% by one year of age.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2017 12:08 pm
@oristarA,
Speaking of water, many places are under water from the heavy rains. We suffer through draughts and floods.
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2017 09:42 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA said:
What do you mean by "true man"?

An honest man who drinks fresh spring water to quench his thirst is grateful to Mother Nature for bestowing him the water. Jesus drank water everyday, yet he's not only ungrateful but also claimed that water was made by himself/his so-called father. He's dishonest. He's no true man. He's false.

Before his so called father's six-day creation, water was/is already there. Mother Nature was/is already there, because She, like water, is made of fundamental particles... and space (where the water dwells in) and time (which is inherent nature of particles)...

My reply:
Jesus is true man. What is a man? Man is "an adult male person. When a boy grows up, he becomes a man" (World Book Dictionary).

Jesus existed that is why he existed and we accept this - there was a man by the name of Jesus Christ who lived with us and was crucified some 2,000 years ago.

Is Jesus true God?
oristarA
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2017 11:31 pm
@peacecrusader888,
What do you mean by "God" then? Is it simply a word comprising of three letters: G, o, d?

peacecrusader888 wrote:


Is Jesus true God?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jan, 2017 04:16 am
@peacecrusader888,
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there was a man by the name of Jesus Christ who lived with us and was crucified some 2,000 years ago.


What reason do you have for believing this to be true?
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peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2017 12:24 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
What do you mean by "God" then? Is it simply a word comprising of three letters: G, o, d?

My reply:
God may be true or false. And Jesus is true God. There is only one true God -- and that is Jesus Christ. The true God has the following characteristics: He is omnipotent, omnipresent, AND omniscient, meaning He knows everything including what happened in the past AND what will happen in the future. If he is not omniscient, then he is not a true God. Is the god that you worship the true God?
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Navhindu
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2017 12:55 am
@peacecrusader888,
Jesus is also 100% human and 100% God
peacecrusader888
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2017 01:15 am
@Navhindu,
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Jesus is also 100% human and 100% God


He is 100% human because He existed in the face of the earth some 2000 years ago. He is the Son of man because His mother, Mary, was a human being.

Jesus is 100% God. He is the Son of God because His Father is God. He is not only 100% God but He is the true God (Revelation 22:16).


 

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