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Which one of these dogs do you like the most...

 
 
Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:32 pm
if you were to own one.

If none, then please don't respond. It wouldn't be helpful. Razz

listed largest to smallest
1. heavy shedder
2. average
3. little to no hair

I was going to add a 4. Coton de Tulear or Havanese (both non-shedding, look like the dogs I posted, and under 20lbs) but getting these pics up took long enough. Wink

(pictures of a Coton and Havanese are on page 3)


1. http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/aaa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/oes2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/oes.jpg

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Weight: Dogs from 65 pounds ...Some can grow to over 100 pounds

The Old English Sheepdog is a gentle, loving and lovable teddy bear. Even-tempered and adaptable. They are friendly, intelligent, faithful and protective. It has a strong herding instinct and may try to herd the family, especially the small children, by bumping, not nipping, but is otherwise excellent with them. Wanting to play more then anything else. The Old English Sheepdog likes to stick close to home; they make good couch potatoes! It is very much part of the family but also wants some time alone. They can be strong-willed, so this breed needs firm training. The Old English Sheepdog is very good at herding and taking instructions, but tend to anticipate commands or do it their own way if they think their way is better. Motivational methods work best. The bark of the Old English Sheepdog sounds like a cracked bell. This breed remains "young" and active for many years, then suddenly becomes old. The Old English Sheepdog makes a fine family companion, because he loves children.

The Old English Sheepdog will do okay in an apartment if it is sufficiently exercised. They are fairly active indoors and will do best with at least an average-sized yard.


http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/oldenglishsheepdog.htm








2. http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/aaaa.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/bc.jpg

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Weight: 40-60 pounds

Known for his "bounce," the exuberant Beardie will charm you with his joyous, affectionate, happy-go-lucky ways. He is playful and lively with an always wagging tail. The perfect companion for children. Enthusiastic, stable and self-confident. Males tend to be more bold and outgoing, while females tend to be calmer and more submissive. The Beardie needs to be with people and not left alone without anything to do. They are humorous and high-energy dogs. Very trainable for many activities. Obedience training is a must as Beardies think a lot and can be headstrong at times. The Beardie is a natural herder of people and animals. They are noisy barkers, but are not watch dogs. They should not be shy or aggressive.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/beardedcollie.htm/









3. http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/aaaaa.jpg

clipped: http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/pl.jpg

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Weight: Dogs 20-35 pounds

The Puli is a lively, cheerful little dog who is very loyal to his family. They are excellent family dogs and will adapt to most surroundings and circumstances. Their innate intelligence makes them easy to train but also gives them a mind of their own. They do very well in obedience and agility as well as in the show ring. Though wary of strangers, they are never aggressive, but may well give a vocal warning if they feel their owner is being threatened. Puli are not recommended for small children who may tease or be rough with them, although if they are raised with a child from puppyhood, they can do just fine.


http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/puli.htm
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:48 pm
#2
http://www.geocities.com/cutielonglegs/aaaa.jpg

i've always preferred straight haired dogs -- the shorter the better.
you can almost see lassie under all that stuff Smile
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paulaj
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:50 pm
They are ALL beautiful! I would go with either #1 or #2. They are both SO cute :-)
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:51 pm
Any of the above will be clipped (1 inch all around). IMO, they're cuter, shed less, and easier to cuddle w/o drowning in their hair. Very Happy
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:51 pm
A lot would depend on where I was living. Climate, living space, acreage ... stuff like that.

I wouldn't have any of those long-haired dogs anyplace warm, or where they couldn't get out and do some kind of herding. The samples you've shown are big space dogs - like some running room.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:53 pm
Clipping a long-haired dog in a warm climate can be a real problem, as you're removing their natural air-conditioning. The vet warned me about that with my double-coated dogs. You kind of need to leave a dog in a state as close to possible to their natural appearance.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:55 pm
The collie and puli are very task-oriented, and get into trouble if they haven't gone for a fair bit of training - and especially if they're left alone for more than an hour or so.
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 01:55 pm
Anyone have experience with these as far as how well they get along with a cat and a 6lb dog?

From what I know, some herding dogs tend to chase (attack) anything that is small (non canine) that RUN REAL fast. I do not know about these dogs. Most ranked #2 and #3 as "medium" for getting along with other animals. It's usually the "low" ranking ones that attack. #1 had "high" ranking for getting along with other animals.

Secondly, I know plenty of 100+ dogs that get along with small dogs. They say they just never leave them alone together and are supervised when they play together. I don't want my small snot getting hurt by a 50+ lb foot, but I'm sure they are mostly gentle when socialized. I can handle this and would like to think I'm an experienced (dominant) owner. I've trained dogs (obedience).

What do you guys think from experience?
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:13 pm
our first dog

http://www.geocities.com/jespah.geo/00000002.jpg

jake, was a 90-100 lb mastiff-shepherd mix.

he was a big bruiser who would've fought with most dogs his size had he not been leashed... but he had 2 little dog friends in the neighborhood.
when these 2 bitches Smile saw him, they came running, and showered him with kisses through their chainlink fence.
the mutual affection/respect was a sight to see...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:15 pm
I like these. This particular Belgian Sheepdog has been trained as a hunting dog. All three of the Belgians we had when I was growing up weren't trained and hid at the sight of a gun - afraid of the noise.

http://www.thetroutbum.com/010102/ulvrype2.jpg
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:15 pm
I am completely biased: http://www.able2know.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=98
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:16 pm
Region-

how cute! I thought about getting a mastiff because they are so loyal to the fam and sweet! They eat a ton!! I tend to like dogs most people are afraid of (b/c they assume they are mean dogs). A great dane is another example of big but extremely gentle.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 02:30 pm
Another factor I'd think about if I was getting another dog (nonononono, 2 is enough for now) was expected life span. I like big dogs, but they don't (very very generally) live as long as smaller dogs.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 03:07 pm
Well, I haven't owned an Old English Sheepdog, but I HAVE lived with one. She was fine with cats - though she was older by the time I lived with her - and I am sure she would have been fine with small dogs.

She was clipped in summer - but, those things are MEANT to have all that hair - they look pretty weird clipped.

And it WAS like living on a fur farm....
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 03:14 pm
Get a cat.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 03:23 pm
...name it Target.
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 03:27 pm
I'm not debating rather than sharing the thoughts running in my over-analyzing head:


The dogs here are all clipped (old english sheep dog) to different lengths:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/oldenglishsheepdogphotos.htm

There are a lot of people who are against clipping/shaving dogs that naturally have lots of hair or fur. However, I am pro-clip,clip. For every negative, I've heard a positive from many experienced show breeders (who imo are the best source of info as they have been around these animals more than anyone). Many people who own dogs with tons of hair encourage you to clip 1 inch around for easy maintenance, and lighter happier dog.

My short-haired cat was definitely not meant to be "shaved" but I do it and that has cut this average shedder to a low shedder. Plus, she's never coughed up anything AND afterwards, you just can tell she likes it (she's always purring for a long time when shaved). Wink

This is just me. My FI is an extreme doglover too. I am trying to be open-mind to other dogs that do not fall into the "low shedding" category. He was already given all his options after extensive research for different breeds, but now it's my turn to consider his list.

Anyways, this enables me to own such a dog. I am on the edge right now with the OES. I really want one, but I am well aware of what "Heavy shedder" means. Having being around enough German Shepards --- ugh (it's like tumbleweeds that fly around the pound I worked at).




I still love your input. Please know that just b/c I share a different opinion, doesn't mean your opinion isn't in the back of my mind. It is.

My choice is a goldendoodle (only from a certain breeder - as there are WAY too many bad breeders who don't know what they're doing here) or a havanese and/or coton de tulear. All have hair, so shed like a human would (little to none).
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Joahaeyo
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 03:30 pm
kicky, I own a cat. She would love a ragdoll cat as a friend though.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/chr1stiangal/ideas/4.jpg

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Swimpy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 04:15 pm
We had an Old English Sheepdog. Great disposition, great with kids. Miss him still after almost 30 years. Forgive my impertinance but if you are planning to clip the dog why not get a short haired dog in the first place?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Sep, 2004 04:26 pm
Joahaeyo wrote:
There are a lot of people who are against clipping/shaving dogs that naturally have lots of hair or fur. However, I am pro-clip,clip. For every negative, I've heard a positive from many experienced show breeders (who imo are the best source of info as they have been around these animals more than anyone).


Are you planning to keep the dog as a show dog or a family dog? I think there are very different things to consider then.
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