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another question..sugar and salt solubility

 
 
Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 11:16 am
which do you think dissolves fast , sugar or salt ? . Taking in mind that sugar is non-polar , contrary to the water.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 04:09 pm
they both dissolve pretty fast. On the basis of electromagnetism, I would expect a polar solute to dissolve faster than a nonpolar solute because the polar atoms would have an attractive force to the water molecules.
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navigator
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 10:00 pm
but , how come that sugar dissolves in water ?.Water is polar and sugar isn't.The rule says , " a like dissolves a like ".
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Adrian
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 10:25 pm
Sugar IS polar in the same way as water is.
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stuh505
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2004 10:25 pm
first of all...I never was very good at chemistry and I took it a long time ago.

sugar is H2CO. C has 4 valence, H's have 1 valance electron, and O has 6 valence electrons. due to the octet rule they want 8 or 0 for stability. the only configuration that appears to work this way is, I think, the following:

H
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C=O
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H

the oxygen would have 2 more pairs of electrons on it. since electrons are negatively charged, that means the oxygen would have a net negative charge. the hydrogens only had 1 electron but it is being shared in a single bond with carbon, so their proton is exposed which is positive. so it looks to me that sugars are polar also.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Mon 11 Oct, 2004 02:44 pm
A sugar contains multiple -OH groups that are capable of hydrogen-bonding (regions of local polarity, even though the molecule may not have a net polarity). That's why it's soluble.
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Methos
 
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Reply Fri 15 Oct, 2004 07:10 pm
stuh505 wrote:
sugar is H2CO

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H
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C=O
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H

Common sugar, sucrose, is C12H22O11 and has the following structure:
http://dl.clackamas.cc.or.us/ch106-07/images/sucros1.jpg

As patiodog says, there are several polar OH groups, not to mention the unbonded electrons on the other 3 oxygens.
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