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Milkmen, and Other Artifacts of a Lost Era

 
 
cavfancier
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 05:03 am
I miss the longbow. If gangsters today would just learn how to use one, there would be no need for drive-by shootings.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 07:40 am
Aw, Cav. We couldn't afford a longbow. We had to throw rocks - if we could afford them any particular day.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 07:42 am
I picked cotton, worked in the apricot sheds, cut raisin grapes. Mostly, cotton gets picked by machine now. I would imagine the other two jobs are still done by hand.
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Letty
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 07:54 am
Hope no one has done this Phoenix, but it's for you and Noddy.


Dearie
Words and Music by Bob Hilliard and Dave Mann
Dearie, do you remember when we waltzed to the Sousa band?
My wasn't the music grand?
Chowder parties down by the seashore ev'ry Fourth of July
Test your memory, my Dearie
Do you recall when Henry Ford couldn't even fix
A running board under a Chandler "Six?"
Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than I.

Dearie, do you remember when we stayed up all night
To get Pittsburgh on a crystal set?
Keystone movies, Coogan and Chaplin, made you laugh then cry
Test your memory, my Dearie
Do you recall when Orville Wright flew at Kitty Hawk?
Well, take it from me, I would rather walk!

Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than I.

Dearie, do you remember when most gents owned a pair of spats
Wing collars and derby hats?
Lovely ladies swinging their bustles made those gentlemen sigh
Test your memory, my Dearie
Do you remember watching John L. win ev'ry fight?
Cuz nobody ducked from Sullivan's right!

Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than I.

Dearie, do you remember when the Met let Caruso sing?
My, didn't the rafters ring?
Diamond Jim was there in the Horseshoe
Catching everyone's eye
Test your memory, my Dearie,
Do you recall when Gilda Gray did the shimmy-shake?
And that was the start of the Frisco Quake.

Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than I.

Dearie, do you remember how they loved Harry Lauder's act?
My, wasn't the Palace packed?
Jenny Lind presented by Barnum sang her sweet lullaby
Test your memory, my Dearie
Chicago all in flames sure caused a terrific row
They blamed it on Missus O'Leary's cow!

Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than I.

Dearie, do you remember Man O' War winning every race?
He ran at a record pace
Rin Tin Tin in serial chapters always rescued the guy
Test your memory, my Dearie
Do you recall when Babe Ruth pitched for the Boston team?
He sure had a curve that was loaded with steam

Dearie, life was cheery in the good old days gone by
Do you remember? If you remember,
Well, Dearie, you're much older than, quite a bit older than, very much older than I. Laughing
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 07:59 am
I had a Cleveland Plain Dealer route...in Akron...so I only delivered to every 8th house and my route was huge distance wise....I tried to do an Akron Beacon Journal route but I was such a small kid I couldn't lift the bag full of papers......I tried, but it lasted a couple of days.

I remember scrounging for pop bottles to take to Lawsons for the deposit so I could have a pot pie for dinner. Not enough bottles to find? No dinner if it was close to payday and we were out of groceries and money.

My mom bought a home barber kit that I became pretty proficient with so on Saturday morning when kids got their money from home to get a haircut and then go to the matinee, they came to me and I cut their hair at a BIG discount so they had more money. Never got caught either. I got pretty good at it.

Which also makes me remember that you used to ge a haircut every week, two at the most, unless you were a hoodlum like me and had the ducktails and the waterfall up front.

I remember when I got in my first band and started getting paid for doing backyard parties over on the rich (to me anyway) side of town. I was thirteen and was the only one around who could play the Ventures catalog and Chuck Berry stuff. The Beatles weren't out yet or were just barely starting. I do remember learning I Saw Her Standing There and She Loves You when they were brand new, not to mention Glad All Over and Ferry Cross The Mersey. After I started playing I never had to work another part time kid job. I was hanging with 16 to 18 year olds which is probably what's wrong with me now.

I remember I had one of those Silvertone guitars that came in the case that had the amp built into it. It was red. Eventually I graduated to the Silvertone piggyback amp that had the reverb plates so if you hit the top of it it made a booming noise. Early 60's special effects.
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 07:59 am
Roberta
I hate to bust your bubble but no, egg creams never had eggs in them. They were and are chocolate syrup preferably fox's U-bet, milk and seltzer in the right proportions. Nothing else.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:06 am
Oh I forgot....I lived with my father for the six worst months of my life in Salem Oregon back in the early sixties and picked strawberries one summer. that was a lot of fun.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:09 am
au1929 wrote:
They were and are chocolate syrup preferably fox's U-bet, milk and seltzer in the right proportions. Nothing else.


Nevertheless: Roberta is correct with her suspicion that htere must have been origianlly eggs in it:

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Why Do They Call it an Egg Cream?
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According to NYCA [1983 issue], the original egg cream was produced in Manhattan. The syrup which was used was made with eggs, and cream was used to give it a richer taste. Later milk and regular syrup were employed, but the name was kept. However, recently I discussed the matter with a Bronx native who recalls getting a drink with the same name that had egg whites added to make it more frothy.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:10 am
Great stuff Bear. I'll bookmark as I have to go off to work. Grumble....grumble
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:21 am
Panzade -- A chore... or a job?
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:26 am
Both, trying to get a roof built after Frances destroyed part of it. It's non-stop right now around here. People with Fred Sanford -type trucks are commanding huge fees to haul away debris...a half million cubic yards at last count. It's a feeding frenzy. Got home from the gig at 3 a.m. and got a little shut-eye.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:27 am
Gotta go but wanted to add that I had to walk uphill both ways to school and back... Rolling Eyes
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:31 am
Walter


What is an egg cream

This is a phenomenal beverage, and if you have never had a New York Egg Cream then you are truly in for a treat. Let's start off by explaining what an Egg Cream is (and what it isn't). First, it was a soda produced almost exclusively in the soda fountains of New York (particularly Brooklyn). Second, there are no eggs in an egg cream. Third, many Egg Creams don't even contain cream. It does however contain chocolate, seltzer, and either milk, cream, or both. When made correctly, the taste is absolutely wonderful, and completely different than any soda on the market today.

The best way to describe the taste of an Egg Cream is to remember back to when you had an ice cream soda. If you can remember sipping on the straw, once the ice cream had a chance to melt, the wonderful taste of flavors produced by the blending of melted ice cream, chocolate syrup, and seltzer water, would best describe how an Egg Cream taste. There are other chocolate soda beverages on the market, but they all taste like chocolate milk made with water. These do not even come close to the complex and wonderfully delightful taste of an Egg Cream.

According to an article published in Esquire Magazine in the 1970's, the Egg Cream was invented in 1890 by Louis Auster, a Jewish candy shop owner in Brooklyn, New York. The beverage was extremely popular, and the candy shop (eventually five candy shops) would be standing room only. Lines would form down the street and around the corner, and according to the article, this started a tradition of drinking the egg cream while standing -- never sitting.

During the 1920's (or maybe the 30's), Mr. Auster was approached by a national ice cream chain, and they offered to buy the rights to the Egg Cream for a fairly small sum. When Mr. Auster turned them down, one of the executives called him by a racial slur, and Mr. Auster vowed to take the Egg Cream formula to his grave. Furthermore, he also instructed the few relatives that knew the secret formula to do the same -- and they all did just exactly that. The only surviving member of the Auster family that still knows the secret is Mr. Auster's grandson, Stanley Auster, and he too has vowed never to reveal the secret. However, Stanley Auster has been quoted as saying that the original Egg Cream contained neither eggs nor cream, and that the origins of its name have been lost.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:32 am
panzade wrote:
Gotta go but wanted to add that I had to walk uphill both ways to school and back... Rolling Eyes


as did I, but I had to walk through ankle deep steaming hot fresh dog ****........ AND I WAS THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.... so stop complaining...... Laughing
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Piffka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:33 am
... and in the snow, right??

Sorry you have to work on Saturday.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 08:53 am
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VgDZAgscsvWTyDrjD5qIkC2clGh2HA1nwPiO5JCnpn*1a5dnFpslcc02!H8BI*JLCqgcjTMDBt0vNZ!*QqfTEem8gGk8NABX*txqjAysC7pO1Zb6fNprFYTPz!YSYWA*/seltzer2.jpg

Au- Seltzer water is a redundancy...like pizza pie. For those you are unaware, seltzer was delivered in these delightful bottles, which rendered the drink fizzy enough to tickle your nose, even when you were near the bottom of the bottle. Club soda pales by comparison. Seltzer, in some circles, was known as 2 Cents plain! Laughing

I have been known to make a pretty decent homemade egg cream, but never as good as in the soda fountain.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 09:00 am
The origin of the name "egg cream" seems to be a great question - with no definate answer:

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Here are several theories regarding the name, and ingredients, of the egg cream.

1. When Louis Auster created the Egg Cream it originally contained both eggs and cream and that was were the name came from. However, he may have later changed the formula eliminating the eggs and cream but keeping the same name.

2. The name Egg Cream was derived as a marketing technique. Eggs and cream were both very popular ingredients in better sodas at the time, but added to the cost of the drink. Louis Auster may have found a way to make a drink that tasted like it contained both of these ingredients even though it didn't. Calling the drink an Egg Cream, based on its taste, even though it contained neither may have simply been good marketing. (As a side note, drinks that contained eggs were shaken thoroughly with shaved ice and then strained -- you would have never tasted the egg).

3. It is possible that Louis Auster's Egg Cream contained only chocolate syrup, soda water, and maybe milk -- But the chocolate syrup might have been prepared with both eggs and cream (thus the name).

4. Mr. Auster was Jewish, as were most of his customers at the time the Egg Cream was invented. It is possible the Egg Cream is actually a Yiddish name or phrase that has been Americanized. The Yiddish word for "Pure" is "Ekt" (I hope I got the spelling right). I have no idea what Yiddish word sounds close to cream, but for arguments sake let's say "Keem" is Yiddish for "Sweetness". This would have made "Ekt Keem" or "Pure Sweetness" the original name, and it simply became corrupted into Egg Cream.

5. The most likely theory was sent to me by an old time Brooklynite. He said that when he was a kid (about 60 years ago) he used to order an "A cream." This makes a lot of since. An "A cream" sounds a lot like an "egg cream" and the best soda fountain drink was usually its chocolate drink (its "A" list drink).
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 09:02 am
growing up in Saudi Arabia we had zero access to such things as sodas, we had the seltzer bottles that you screwed in the bottom a little canister of "gas" and we could buy coke syrup and make a soda. I didn't care for it.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 09:09 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Seltzer water is a redundancy...like pizza pie.


Actually, 'Selzer (water)' is a modification of German the 'Selters (Wasser)', mineral water from Nieder Selters, Germany :wink:

old style bottle

http://www.radeberger-gruppe.de/cms/images/469.gif


"Every day" bottles
http://www.selters.de/cms/images/491.gif


"Sekt oder Selters" (Sparkling wine or mineral water) is a common German saying meaning either "What would you like to drink?" (seldom) or "All or nothing at all".
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au1929
 
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Reply Sat 18 Sep, 2004 09:52 am
Phoenix32890
I remember the seltzer man picking up the empties and delivering a box of refills every week. There was not a dinner where a bottle of seltzer was not present on our table. I would add that no capped seltzer bottle could ever measure up.
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