Reply Sat 14 May, 2016 11:31 am
Design rules for a new world based on the fruits & gifts of the holy spirit and explain. Any ideas? Do I make up a new world? thanks
 
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2016 11:38 am
@melodypink21,
Sorry, I've too much Alchemy homework to lend a hand, but some of the Indian Astrologers may have a few ideas.
(You certainly need to make something up ! Smile ).
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sat 14 May, 2016 05:44 pm
What kind of f**ked up school sets homework like that? One that prides itself on turning out idiots?
fresco
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 12:43 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Once you elevate 'religion' to the status of an academic subject, schools are obliged to apply modes of teaching common to other subjects. A history teacher for example might legitimately ask students to consider what Britain would have been like if Germany had successfully invaded in 1940. The difference is that such a scenario is far more specific and less hypothetical than some ad hoc selection from 'Holy Writ' ( fiction originating from numerous human authors). The problem is therefore the status of 'religion' as a 'school subject' and IMO it is a disservice to social cohesion to give it such a status, especially in state schools charged with the duty of cultivating a harmonious society. The issue is of course exacerbated by the history of 'education' in the West in which 'Divinity' and 'Theology' have become university degree subjects with 'career' prospects. So atheists and agnostics have tended to be lampooned as 'Canute arguing with the Tide', or swamped by PC waffle about 'respecting the diversity of cultures'.
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 05:53 am
@fresco,
When I was at "Junior" school (age 7 to 11) in the UK, we had "RK" (Religious Knowledge) classes, which were more or less New Testament stuff, related to Christian festivals such as Easter, Christmas, Palm Sunday, etc. It can't have gone into much detail because I seem to recall not knowing what a "virgin" was until I was about 12. At a private ("public") secondary school (11 to 18) we had "Divinity" classes conducted by the School Chaplain, and these were resolutely non-controversial: no Holy Ghost stuff, not a lot about Jesus, mainly Old Testament history & Saul, Nebuchadnezzar etc. All very Anglican. In both cases I see now that it was perfunctory in the extreme, and the message was not "this is the truth and it's majorly important", rather "This is what it says in the Bible and we've got to teach it for an hour every week because the law says so, but it doesn't really matter".

As for the original question, I personally imagine that "a new world based on the fruits & gifts of the holy spirit" would probably be rather like what you see on the cover of the Watchtower. That is, a free picnic with zoo animals and a conservative dress code. Lots of smiling, although I think Donald Trump wouldn't be happy, judging by the picture below. There will be hairdressers who learned their craft in the 1920s. There are plenty of discussions of the "World to Come" in the Bible, and a cursory Google search will bring up plenty of ideas- lions laying down with lambs, etc. See the Nicene Creed, also Matthew 12:32, Mark 10:30, Luke 18:30, Hebrews 2:5, Hebrews 6:5. Other related expressions are "age to come" which is typically found in more recent translations, Kingdom of God, Messianic Age, Millennial Age, The New Earth and New Jerusalem, and dispensation of the fulness of times and possibly also eternal life.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JNTyrAUQ2RQ/UCQMvH944rI/AAAAAAAAAKc/EdOkpByX2dw/s1600/%25CE%2593%25CE%2597+-+%25CE%25A0%25CE%2591%25CE%25A1%25CE%2591%25CE%2594%25CE%2595%25CE%2599%25CE%25A3%25CE%259F%25CE%25A3.jpg


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saab
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 06:00 am
http://www.saintjohnchurchmiddletown.com/siteimages/holyspiritmagnet2.png
These are the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 06:05 am
@saab,
I prefer the picnics, although I don't know if having that koala there is a good idea - they do bite apparently, and it can't be hygienic, surely? I guess the Holy Ghost would fix all that. It is a koala?
saab
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 06:27 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
The lion certainly looks like he does not know what to do with that ball.

I had some Jehoves withesses with a picture like that - except it was a lamb instead of a ball.
I look seriously at the lion and asked if it would not eat the lamb.
Oh no not in the new peaceful world.
Hm...a lionĀ“s teeth are not make for chewing grass
God will take care of that and give the lion new teeth.
Problem solved.
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 07:51 am
@saab,
Quote:
God will take care of that and give the lion new teeth.

Not only God. You may have heard of the Reverend Ian Paisley, a Northern Ireland politician and preacher. He specialised in "hellfire and brimstone" sermons, in a shouting style, and preached to packed churches. The story goes that one Sunday he was getting into his stride and declared "There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth!". A little old lady in the front row of seats put her hand up and said she hadn't had any teeth of her own for 20 years. "Madam", Paisley replied, "teeth will be provided".
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 15 May, 2016 08:28 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
It's a red panda..
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AugustineBrother
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 07:06 am
@melodypink21,
I would look up the Gifts and then take something like More's Utopia and work with that. Aquinas is very good on the Gifts in the Summa
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