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Indian prisoner seeks bail to have sex

 
 
Col Man
 
Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 09:54 am
AHMEDABAD, India (Reuters) - An Indian man charged over the train torching that triggered Gujarat's Hindu-Muslim bloodshed two years ago has asked for bail so he can go home to have sex with his wife, court officials say.


Firozkhan Zafarkhan's two-page handwritten application to the court in the state's main city, Ahmedabad, says he and his wife are suffering mental trauma because their physical needs have not been met for such a long time.


He wants to be allowed out of jail for 30 days. Zafarkhan, a Muslim, said his religion and India's conservative culture forbid him from having sex with anyone but his wife.


He is charged under a tough anti-terrorism law with being part of a mob that torched a train in the Gujarat city of Godhra in February 2001, burning alive 59 Hindu pilgrims, including many women and children.


That incident triggered days of communal violence, India's worst in a decade, in which human rights groups say more than 2,000 people, mainly Muslims, were burned and hacked to death.


The anti-terrorism law makes bail almost impossible, but astonished prosecutors have not yet decided what to do.


"It's an unprecedented bail application," said one, Sudhir Brahmbhatt. "We have not decided whether to oppose this or not."
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 10:28 am
This seems like a valid reason for bail. Masturbation is so ungratifying.
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Col Man
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 12:19 pm
hi nickfun Very Happy
glad your back Very Happy
ive missed your witty one liners....
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 24 Aug, 2004 03:31 pm
Thanks Col Man!
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brahmin
 
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Reply Fri 8 Jul, 2005 02:45 pm
articles about godhra -


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Godhra and our double standards
http://www.dailypioneer.com/secon3.asp?cat=\edit4&d=EDITS

The reactions of 'secular parties' to the massacre at Godhra has once again exposed the double standards which define the contours of public life in independent India. The victims of the pre-planned and mindless violence were not criminals.

They were only 'guilty' of chanting 'Jai Sri Ram' and 'Jai Bajrang Bali' and such other socio-religious slogans. The opinion of people at large may be sharply divided on whether or not the Vishwa Hindu Parishad was right in taking up the temple agitation now. But none can contend the VHP's right to demonstrate for a cause that it considers right, regardless of what others might think. Democracy also allows every one to raise slogans in support of one's cause so long as it does not hurt anyone else. Nobody can claim that slogans in support of the construction of Sri Ram Mandir can be offensive to another community. Plurality of demands is the essence of democracy even when some of these demands might be in conflict with others.

Many 'secularists', including a top CPI(M) leader while expressing lip-sympathies with the victims, however, are practically trying to justify the gruesome incident. A former Governor of UP, a savvy Congressman, defined the incident as a 'but natural corollary of the VHP's temple movement'. According to these apologists, the behaviour of Ram Sevaks were 'provocative' and called for just retribution.

The CPI(M) leader's finding an excuse for the Godhra attack on the pilgrims is not surprising. For long Muslim communalism has found a niche in the lap of Communism and the two are intertwined. It was the undivided CPI that supported the demand for division of the country. The Communists have always held that India is a conglomeration of nations and not an integrated country.

In West Bengal, several discoveries of arms and ammunition in minority-dominated areas have been pushed under the red carpet by the CPI(M)-led government. The recent backlash when the Left Front Chief Minister called for the regulation of madarsas is another clear instance of this Communist-communalist collusion. The way the Marxists are going out of the way to cover up these communal incidents from Godhra to Kolkata is simply outrageous. Similarly, the endeavour of some other self-styled 'secularists' to whitewash the ISI's inroads into Indian society is dangerous.

The 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai and Coimbatore clearly indicate what such links can do. The ISI is depending heavily on this linkage to magnify its capacity to damage the Indian State. If political parties in India are prepared to turn a blind eye of this link to get some vote bank advantage, they would indirectly be serving the ISI's interests. Whether that will damage India is something I leave to their conscience.

Less than three years ago, a father and his two sons were torched to death in the darkness of night in the jungles of Orissa. It attracted immediate countrywide condemnation. Secularists went all over town to paint it red. Without any evidence whatsoever, the heinous crime was attributed to the Sangh Parivar and the face of the country was painted black as an intolerant nation. Why are they less than belligerent today in condemning the present carnage? Is it because the three were White, Christians, and were involved in the 'noble mission' of converting the 'rustic tribesmen'? On the other hand the Ram Sevaks were local Hindus, belonging to the lower middle classes of the society and returning from a pilgrimage. There is no doubt that the assault was carried out by the same forces that were responsible for the fidayeen attack outside J&K Assembly on October 1, storming of the Parliament on December 13 and the recent slaying of journalist Daniel Pearl. The attack at Godhra is a wake-up call for those who cherish the institution of civil society and believe in democracy.


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They didn't start the fire
http://www.dailypioneer.com/secon3.asp?cat=\edit3&d=EDITS

Unkaa khoon khoon, hamara khoon pani? (Is their blood blood, ours merely water?) This melodramatic enquiry from a Hindi film protagonist championing the cause of the economic underdog in the 1980s sprang to mind as one absorbed media reactions, largely scripted by Hindu secular-liberal intellectuals, to the carnage that travelled from the charred Sabarmati Express at Godhra on February 27 to the streets of Ahmedabad the following day.

Gujarat was "burning", "innocents" were dying, there was "arson and loot" on the streets-all this on February 28; all references to the manner in which the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) fashioned its response to the carnage on Sabarmati Express. The singling out of Muslims is indeed unforgivable. But was the 2000-strong Muslim mob, which should forthwith surrender its membership to a club called human civilisation, "innocent" in its decision to attack a bogey-full of Ramsewaks because the latter committed the crime of singing bhajans on their way back home from Ayodhya?

Secular defendants of the Muslim cause in India promptly pronounced the Ramsewaks guilty of "provoking" a bunch of miscreants into medieval barbarity? Apparently the sewaks had committed a crime serious enough to invite a retribution that reminded some of us of the terrible days of Partition, of bogeys being locked from the outside as countless Hindus, particularly women and children, went up in flames. Then, February 28 brought news of attacks on Muslims, Muslim shops, Muslim restaurants, Muslim places of worship, etc, etc; not one report on Godhra the previous day even hinted at the fact that the 58 Ramsewaks, sent to their deaths in cold blood, were victims of Muslim violence; that it was a targeted attack on the Hindu community. Those who perpetrated the Godhra massacre were merely identified as a bunch of "miscreants" of a "particular community" who set a train afire, never mind if their impotent rage killed 25 women and 14 children out of a total of 58.

So much for media squeamishness when it comes to calling a spade a spade. Quite clearly, a nation obliged to preserve its secular credentials, on the basis of its august foundation, is often forced to do so at a cost unacceptable at least to some of us. Violence is condemnable. That is a trusim. But then simple truisms lend themselves to extremely subjective, prejudiced, and partisan interpretations when it comes to the question of communal tension in this country. If violence against Muslims is condemnable, so is brutalisation of Hindus. What was indeed the provocation for snuffing out 58 innocent Hindu lives in a gory carnage, an act that was bound to invite retaliation? If tears must be shed for the loss of Muslim lives, they must in equal measure be sapportioned for the Hindus. Certainly, action and reaction must both be judged by the same scale.

Those attacked on the Sabarmati Express were not masons carrying construction material to Ayodhya, in defiance of the law of the land. Even if they had been, they should have invited retribution from law-keepers, not lawless barbarians. The country's "secular" brigade, a section that Muslims of the kind who attacked the Sabarmati Express must remain eternally indebted to, lost no time in issuing indifferent "violence-is-condemnable" statements. Worth noting however were warnings highlighting the immense threat the VHP posed to the country's internal security and secular harmony. For this section, Muslims continue to be the victimised community, even if that "victimisation" stems from grave physical provocation of the Godhra variety. One section even extended a dangerous and patently subversive theory, of the kind the Pakistani President voices when an Indian aircraft is hijacked; that Godhra may have been a VHP subplot in the Ayodhya saga.

Would Gujarat have burned had the Sabarmati Express not been set on fire? The Hindu secular intellectual would insist Godhra was a result of the VHP's growing belligerence. For this section of opinion it is as marvellously simple to flog Hindu fundamentalism as it is intriguingly difficult to identify its Muslim equivalent. For others less committed, however, the manner in which the Muslim mob at Godhra chose to respond to the VHP's defiance over Ayodhya is not humanly, ideologically, socially or civilizationally justifiable. Strangely, in a world where opinion-makers are not shying away from talking about Islamic fundamentalism, in India voices are quick to rise against Hindu fundamentalism but not against the one which constitutes its Muslim equivalent. If the evil of fundamentalism is to be condemned, the condemnation must be honest, comprehensive and total.

Admittedly, the VHP's intransigence on the Ayodhya issue was waiting to step out into the open. In this, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) must take its share of the blame. It is after all the party that once rode the Hindutva vehicle, the mandir issue catapulting it to national recognition. Political expedience of the kind that arises out of running a coalition Government at the Centre subsequently dictated the BJP's move away from a regressive Hindutva agenda. The delinking, eminently desirable in a party that was to head a Government at the Centre, however ought to have been engineered in a manner the party did not lose control over a fringe like the VHP that always carried with it the potential of going berserk, in no small measure owing to a sense of alienation from and betrayal by its erstwhile political patrons.

The recently-concluded elections in Uttar Pradesh proved that the mandir has ceased to be an issue in the State. At the national level too, Ayodhya was hardly a concern. Given the dictates of a globalising world, the BJP successfully shed the negative connotations of being a "Hindu nationalist party" that the international media painted it as till the other day. What this metamorphosis did not take into account however was the fact that the mandir issue would fester and rear its head at a future date, a time when the BJP leadership would be expected to exercise the necessary control. However, not having carried the Ayodhya issue to its conclusion, logical or otherwise, the BJP is now left battling rebellion from the VHP, mounting criticism from its political allies and detractors alike, while facing an unfortunate test of its leadership's credibility, a leadership that is left "appealing" to the VHP, instead of ordering it, to desist from violence. The situation to say the least is grim.

It may take days for the fire in Guajrat to be doused. For the moment it has caused substantial damage to India's secular credentials. Only a month ago, one sat in Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres' office at the Knessett in Jerusalem, savouring the veteran leader's compliments on how India was a model of secular harmony, a democracy which admitted a 140 million Muslim component in its billion-strong population. Secular India is under attack today. As much from Hindu fundamentalists who swear by a temple no one seems to particularly want, as from those Muslims who consider carnages like Sabarmati Express a fitting response to that fundamentalism.

Ironically for the country's leadership, the Gujarat carnage comes at a time when it was revelling in Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's discomfort over reining in the jihadis he had painstakingly nurtured till only a while ago. Deja vu?

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"Salim Abdul Gaffar, vice-president of the Youth Congress, lead the frenzied mob".

"How come there were 2000 people awaiting outside the Godhara station waiting with Petrol at 8 am in the morning."
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Tue 2 Aug, 2005 03:24 am
Yeah, right, whatever - we got 'International News Forums' fellah!



So, this bale of what was it exactly? Can't he have sex with a woman like the rest of us??
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 31 Oct, 2005 04:14 pm
Exactly Mr Still. brahmin must learn to lighten up!
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