@oristarA,
Who owns us? Isn't it God? That is why He can take away life from a person if He so wishes. God did not sin when He flooded the earth and left Noah and his wife, and their three children with their wives (Genesis 7:13).
God is in the process of eliminating people on the earth again. He will take 144,000 out of the earth and returned them when there are almost no people of earth anymore (Revelation 14:3) in about the year 2200.
@Setanta,
Smiley highlighted the word "star" for that very reason.
Which does not answer how anyone was lead to that stable; nor, for that matter, the palace of Herod.
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Which does not answer how anyone was lead to that stable; nor, for that matter, the palace of Herod.
It should be "was
led to", Set. Of course you know this. But I hope to see your English would go from success to significance.
@oristarA,
Wondering, do you know what lead light is ? Just curious
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
Wondering, do you know what lead light is ? Just curious
Lead came-supported decorative glass windows, of course I know.
Because I'm supported by Wiki at any time.
They weren't that wise. If you look at the most reliable source you'll see they made a few cockups.
"Field and Fountain, Moor and Mountain"
What sort of idiot walks through a fountain? I fell in one when I was drunk once, but when sober I walk round them, usually.
@izzythepush,
Of course you walk around a fountain - you live in UK
The three wise men came from the desert and found it very nice to walk in cool water. So would you.
@saab,
No I wouldn't. Anyway, there's no mention of desert, fields, moors and mountains, but no desert.
They started off in a field.
@izzythepush,
We do not know very much about the wise men
According to Matthew, the only one of the four Canonical gospels to mention the Magi, they came "from the east" to worship the "king of the Jews"
The rest are legends.
@saab,
There's the carol,
We three kings of orient are. That's the only source that matters. Matthew doesn't even bloody rhyme!
@izzythepush,
Did not know the carol. Found it ....
Here is one in Swedish - soon is Easter and than it is too late for Christmas carols
http://www.muzofox.eu/mp3/helga_kungar_tre_swedish_folk_song
@saab,
I think it was too late some time ago.
@izzythepush,
king of the Jews！
Not King of Humankind.
I'm no Jew. Who cares of the king of Jews?
Hitler cares and he too wants to fight the Jewish poison! And now Jesus is king of the Jews. What would he offer you? Toxins or tonics?
:
Oh, I know he offers us slavery.
And Lincoln shatters the slavery.
Quote:Hitler: My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
@izzythepush,
I know this may seem irreverent, but I remember it from my school years;
We three kings of orient are
Smo o king a rubber cigar
It was loaded, it explo o ded
Ka boo xxx mmm
We two kings of orient are
Smo o king a rubber cigar
Etc . . .
So now we have one who refers to Hitler who wants to fight the Jews
and
another one who blows up people from the Orient.
A not very fitting joke after Brussels.
@neologist,
I know, but Brussel is a bit too close at the moment.
The spirit of Ama said that the Three Kings stayed at Bethlehem for one week. Their stay in Bethlehem, therefore, would be from 33 BC 06-06 to 33 BC 06-13 or 3728 Sivan 24 to 3728 Tammuz 1.
Matthew 2:12 states: "And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way."
They heeded the warning from God. They passed in another way to avoid Jerusalem. Since they were from the east of Palestine, namely, Persia, Arabia, and Saba or Sheba, their kingdoms must be beyond the Dead Sea.
They might have travelled to Ein Feshcha (Ein Feshkha) which was due east of Bethlehem and south of Qumran, then to the northern shores of the Dead Sea. Since it was June, there was no rain. The wadi of Kidron was dry and not dangerous to traverse. The Kidron passes south of Jerusalem and east of Bethlehem, and empties into the Dead Sea.
