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Public humiliation of thief is OK

 
 
Col Man
 
Reply Mon 9 Aug, 2004 07:59 pm
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A man required to wear a signboard stating "I stole mail. This is my punishment," outside a San Francisco post office was reasonably sanctioned, a U.S. federal court has said.


The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed on Monday a lower court's order that required mail thief Shawn Gementera to wear the sign, noting the public humiliation was intended to "break" him of an illusion he had committed a victimless crime.


Paired with requiring Gementera to write apologies and lecture at a high school, the "somewhat crude" condition he wear the signboard provided an opportunity to "repair his relationship with society," the court ruled.


Gementera had argued the signboard served no purpose other than to humiliate him.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Wed 18 Aug, 2004 02:59 pm
!!!

What do you think of this, Col? A sandwich board for a letter...

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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 18 Aug, 2004 03:04 pm
The humiliation was only because he delivered the letters way faster than the US Postal Service could, and they were shamed indeed. I'm making this up, but it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility and conspiracy theory.
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Col Man
 
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Reply Wed 18 Aug, 2004 06:57 pm
i think in some ways this is maybe a better punishment than jail or a fine cos he will maybe realise hes really hurting real people stealing mail....
if he cares at all that is
i think maybe the justice system isnt totally without creativity...
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 18 Aug, 2004 07:14 pm
I wish someone would steal my mail. It's all bills or advertising anyway. Laughing
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 05:10 am
:LOL:

Your wish is my command!

(I do wonder what the mail actually was... probably waxing advertisements or something of the like.)
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 05:21 am
I don't know about everyone else, but I get a lot of coupons in the mail. Maybe that's what he was after...
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:27 am
'Three more of these and I'll have myself a free sachet of conditioner.'

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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:30 am
I never get coupons. I always get these stupid garden tools manuals; I wouldn't mind, only I never need garden tools, want them, or have any intention of blowing my money on them.

I find it very honourable to be someone who has never owned a lawnmower.

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Col Man
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:39 am
Laughing garden tools manuals...how freaky
well i don't get coupons either
i only get bills and 'do you want a loan' or 'do you want a credit card' mail
in fact i cant remember the last time someone actually wrote to me Crying or Very sad
i live in a student area so i mainly get restaurant flyers stuck through my door..bloody hundreds of em...
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:43 am
Mr. Gementera's mail theft was a little more significant than simply taking someone's junk mail.

Here's the press release from the United States Attorney for the Northern District of California.
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:47 am
Thanks, Set. We can see that it's far more serious... I suppose that he was taking mail indiscriminately so as to find cheques?

Poor you, Col. Perhaps I should write to you?


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Col Man
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:47 am
wow far out Smile good one set Wink
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Col Man
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:49 am
hehe thanks for the thought drom
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:52 am
You'll be in Greece, 'though, won't you?


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Col Man
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2004 06:59 am
mm yeah but not for so long Wink
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Tidewaterbound
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:20 pm
Then there was the gas station in MD last month that made the theft walk with a sandwich board announcing "I stole gas". The perp was supposed to walk for 3 hours instead of jail time. Came very late, walked 45 minutes for the CNN cameras, and then cried to the manager of the store, who let her sit down for almost an hour, and then she left.

Humiliation doesn't even work for some, they gladly pander to the press and laugh about their theft.

Go figure.
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