WHO is the TRUE God ?

Yea Den, that's also what the Christians, among others, also say. It does entail some logical problems though. For instance She must have created The Whole Shebang; that is, besides matter, space and (yes) time. Yet we can't help observing that She must have been there before Creation ; so therein lies a conundrum if not a paradox or contradiction

I presume Que, I wonder if you mean that there's nothing else we can say about Her/Him/It, that we can be sure of


Edited to comment that maybe you mean there's only one of Him/Her/It. The problem here maybe partly one of the esl who doesn't always make his position entirely clear. But I'd agree if there's something else besides time, space, and matter out there, probably yes, it's likely there's only one such. This conclusion arises from a logical principle that the more complicated something is, the more likely there's only one of it

If I ask, for instance,"Who is the true leader of mankind," then the implication is that the position has many claimants, other guys who say "I'm the leader." So you could to be saying that other folks' Gods, if they claim anything else besides Creation, can't be. But some of us could be confused by that claim since none of us are entirely sure what "Creation" entails

So Que you might clarify a bit

More of him is not recognizable - means just that , that more of him , without
that he created the universe , is NOT recognizable !
That means that all religions lie , and so is it !
And just that is the reason because this mankind stagnates since many thousand years - with lies you cannot come forward on the way to the true God !

Did you guys deliberately remove "Cosmic Muffin", it not nice to ignore deities.

Eh? Howzzat?

So Den please forgive an 85-year-old brain

Den, I think I'm just beginning to catch on--and no offense but of course the esl's posting might puzzle the typical U.S. slob (me)

So you're saying something like: "All I'm sure of, is that He/She/It created the Universe." Okay I respect your opinion, Den. But now don't you have to defend the assertion that it was even created

In other words, why couldn't She/It/He have existed forever

How could that conclusion follow from your assertion

If the real creator exists ,
we can just that recognize from him at the universe !

And this no religion , this nothing but pure orientation at the true God !
All follows out of his existence !

I'd say "...as the Universe !"

"Yes," responds the apodictical existential pantheist, "indeed She is It"

Sweet. Now all you have to do is prove that it exists and you've got it made.

You must recognize it ! VERY MUCH AND HARD WORK FOR YOU !

How can I recognize it if you won't show me anything?

I have shown the way . More is not possible . The rest is your work .
That is incredibly difficult for this corrupt and ill mankind , I have said !
It is very very hard work ( I needed 57 years , and since more than ten years
day ( and night ) ) .

You haven't shown anything. Nothing. All you've done is proclaim yourself the holder of supernatural knowledge. Why should we believe you? Why shouldn't we make the more reasonable conclusion that you're deluded, just like all the others who have made similar claims? Show us something concrete. Convince us.

All is said .
It seems nobody here is able to understand . (just normal)

It would help if you would say something comprehensible. Your main message seems to be that you're special.

Fight against your indoctrination .

I'm too busy fighting against your attempts to indoctrinate me at the moment.

The false direction .