German Universities Stamp Out Anti-Semitism.

"German Universities Breeding Ground For Anti-Semitism."

You got this knowledge from what source?

MSNBC.

I was looking through the International News on my Homepage, and was really surprised to see this--and more surprised that it wasn't reported in any of my American papers.

I thought it was important, carried some interesting issues and wanted feedback.

Had you heard of this event?

Well, Lash, I actually was asking about your title to this thread "German universities breeding ground for anti-semitism".

It's in the news here since it has happened:
" Germany bans Islamist group

Using recently tightened law, German Interior Minister Otto Schily has banned a further Islamic group called Hizb ut-Tahrir as police raided 25 buildings linked to the group across Germany. From Britain, a Hizb spokesman, Imran Waheed, denied that the group was extremist. Schily said the group had been active on German university campuses, using "very anti-Semitic" language against Israel. His ministry added that a Hizb rally at Berlin's Technical University last October was attended by members of Germany's far-right. Hizb ut-Tahrir was founded in Jordan in the 1950s. It's the third group banned in Germany since the September 11th attacks. " (DW-world.de)

Last year's figures for the USA:

"The findings in brief … Strongly anti-Semitic:
17% of Americans
35% of Hispanics
44% of foreign-born Hispanics
20% of Hispanic Americans born in U.S.
35% of African-Americans
3% of U.S. college and university students "

(source: Anti-Semitism on the Rise in America

I read the article, and the title I chose is what I gleaned as the basic gist.

The article pointed to wide-spread promotion on campuses in Germany of radical Islam, and hate speech against Jews.

Do you think my encapsulation of the article, and resulting title are an issue?

Walter? What's up? I was talking about an article written by MSNBC. Why did you bring up anti-Semitism is America? It certainly would be an interesting subject, but this thread is about the article.

Actually, I can't get that and where the article points "to wide-spread promotion on campuses in Germany of radical Islam, and hate speech against Jews". It speaks about the activities of this islamistic society and the meeting in Berlin. There was a video about this in the various news shows.

I'm bringing this up because I'm strongly opposed to that German universities were a breeding ground for anti-semitism.

"Twenty five people, including three Britons, are currently on trial in Cairo accused of trying to overthrow the Egyptian government and of spreading propaganda for the Hizb ut-Tahrir, which is banned in Egypt but not in Britain." (source: ha'aretz.com)

I'll change it. What would you title the thread?

Well, you may change it to whatever you think is appropriate or just leave it.

How about "German Universities Stamp out Anti-Semitism"?

Really, Lash, the title is not at all descriptive of the content.

CLARIFICATION: I never in my wildest imagination thought this thread or title would be offensive. I thought the German government's response was perfect. I was thinking the major issue was how many events had occurred that merited the German gov's response, and what people thought the response would be here, if our admin. did the same thing. And, why haven't we heard about it in our press?

This could've happened in any country. The fact that it was Germany was a variable, to me.

Thanks, Lash Goth.

Most reasonable people are against bigotry, including anti-Semitism, in many countries, including Germany. But although the German government has done very much to eliminate this, that alone does NOT mean that anti-Semitism does not exist in Germany.

Especially since Germany has many foreign students and workers, who harbor all sorts of beliefs.

I would really worry if governments could control the beliefs of citizens and all others in their country, wouldn't you.

'Bout time you got on the boards, FT. Welcome

Governments cannot control peoples' beliefs (and they should not), but they can efficiently control and curb propaganda of hatred. And the German government is one of the most consistent and efficient in Europe in this aspect.

About universities: the situation is much more complicated. Some professors of Arab origin sometimes abuse academic freedoms in order to propagate hatred and bigotry. Activities of one of the accomplices of al-Arian, the former Middle East studies professor from the USF (forgot his name), are the best example. If he was not involved in sponsoring terror, he could have continued spreading hatred for years without being arrested and even fired.

Actually, anti-semitism here in Germany is practised (mostly/ exclusivly) by Germans, not by foreigners.


steissd

I'm acquainted with academic life. The only known anti-semitic propaganda was actually done by a professor (German, got a professorship as well in South Africa) at my former university: he later commited suicied.