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The neverending FETTERED ASSOCIATION game.

 
 
Equus
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 10:18 am
Eric Cartman
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 10:44 am
South Park


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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 10:52 am
Mansfield Park, Jane Austen
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 10:53 am
McArthur Park, wet cake and all
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 11:52 am
(Have you ever noticed how similar Mansfield Park is to Shakespeare's All's well that ends well? Both works' anti-heroes are named Bertram; both works' heroines lowly but honourable; the world that surrounds them is inpenetrable and full of people higher than they; they are wards of richer women due to their fathers' deaths; they are both in love with wayward and arrogant people connected to them like relatives; they end up in love that seems disturbing and unhappy to the reader. I wonder whether Mansfield's park was JA's variation on Shakespeare's theme?)

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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 11:53 am
McCarthyism.

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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 11:55 am
(I wouldn't doubt it drom. That really is the beauty of Shakespeare, timeless, universal themes. There is also the possibility that JA thought of this on her own, perhaps under the influence of Shakespeare, and made it her own story, which counts as innovation on a theme.)
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Rod3
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 12:48 pm
Mc Donald's Farm
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 12:51 pm
That's very true, Cav; I find it a huge coincidence that both's characters are so similar (and the anti-heroes given the same, rather rare surname, Bertram,) but dumb luck does often come into play. Parts of Mansfield Park's plot are rather original, like the whole Antiguan slaves subplot, (which is rather shocking to be in an Austen novel,) but I guess that after seeing the connection, I can't avoid reading more into it. I'm surprised to see that there are no links to something about the correlation of the two works on the Internet... perhaps I should write something...

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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 12:51 pm
The ITV news at ten.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 01:15 pm
There is no truth in the News (Isvestia)
And no news in the Truth (Pravda)

-- Soviet era Russian proverb
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 01:54 pm
Perëstroika


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mac11
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 02:52 pm
Angels in America
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Raggedyaggie
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2004 03:06 pm
Citizen Cohn (Roy Cohn)
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:10 am
The Citizenship Initiative.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:16 am
Citizens: A Chronicle of the French Revolution, Simon Schama
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:21 am
The Boston Chronicle

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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:24 am
The Chronicles of Narnia, C. S. Lewis
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drom et reve
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:35 am
Henry Lewis

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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:43 am
The Meriwether Lewis and William Clark Expedition
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