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Does this happen often?

 
 
Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 04:48 pm
I think Rogers observation should be taken seriously, these things can take odd twists. Given your job, you might want to consult an attorney to discuss what you might do to further protect yourself.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 04:48 pm
I was going to say that. Whole bunches of us will vouch for you. (Ah, but would they listen?) Nehmind. You are articulate in your concern for children's well being and I am not worried about your making that clear to anyone.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 04:58 pm
Yes it is very common to use language that is tantamount to advertising child porn.

Usually, the actual porn does not contain mnors but is aimed at depicting an illusion of it.

In the US, laws were proposed to make it illegal to depict child pornography even if the participants are not childred (for example, police fear computer generated child pornography that would difficult their jobs) but they were too broad and might have made movies like American Beauty illegal.

Simply put, yes, this is common and quite frankly futile to forward to police.

What I would do is determine where the email originated and where the advertised site is hosted and contact the hosts and local law enforcement there.

Your local police will probably not know or care enough to trace it.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:06 pm
I hoped you would turn up Craven!!!!

And I fear you will be right.

Er - how do I determine where it originated?
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:10 pm
Send it to me, it's easier for me to do it than to teach ya.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:14 pm
Thankee...
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colorbook
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:16 pm
You did the right thing, you reported it. It is still a scary situation and would give us all second thoughts about whether or not they (the authorities) may think us the guilty parties here. I think nothing can be proven for anyone unless they used their credit card to purchase and download it.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:17 pm
I'm working on it. Bad news is that it's not a joke, it's real and really IS showcasing child porn, not fake stuff.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:18 pm
dlowan wrote:
Thankee...


Especially since I know how busy you are.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:19 pm
Craven de Kere wrote:
I'm working on it. Bad news is that it's not a joke, it's real and really IS showcasing child porn, not fake stuff.


Dear goddess! I worried that it was, you know - not that I have any experience, but the promises looked rather real.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:27 pm
Oy.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:29 pm
Ok - gotta go to work.

Hafta deal with this when I get home.

Thanks again, Craven.
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:32 pm
The site was registered with a fake name:

Korban Dallas (I believe this is from the film 5th element)
It was registered at name15.com but that outfit itself looks shoddy at least and probably won't be much help.

The site is hosted in China and here is all the contact info on the host network. Note that it may be on a hacked box and these hosts may not even be aware.

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

phone: +862368614888
fax-no: +862368602314

address: No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing
address: 100032
country: CN
phone: +86-10-66027112
fax-no: +86-10-58501144


The email was onsensibly sent from hally.com but I can't confirm this unless you forward the email to me as an attachment. And not the one you sent to the cops but the original.

ABC Communications
530 Third Avenue
Prince George B.C.
V2L 3C3
Canada
Phone: +1 (250)612-5270
Toll-free: +1 (888)235-1174
Fax: +1 (250)563-6367

In any of your reports make sure to give the URL in the email as the domain home will not show any of that content. They need to see the main.html page.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 11 Jul, 2004 05:35 pm
Thank you!!!! I appreciate this very much.

I deleted the original, dammit.

I only have the copy of the email I sent to the police.

But I can follow this up from work.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 01:34 am
Ok - I am sooooo embarrassed - but - I now have a second email from the same horrid site - so I can send an original as an attachment - but I don't know how to make it an attachment!!!!!

I normally send attachments from work - and the computer there has a thing on the email you use to do it - my home email program has no such thing!!!
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Solmeci
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 01:41 am
Child porn is more popular now due to so many people have access on the internet, it more widely distributed.

People who create child porn or get some sick pleasure out of it belong in the deepest depths of hell, next to Judas.
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the prince
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 02:04 am
dlowan wrote:
Ok - I am sooooo embarrassed - but - I now have a second email from the same horrid site - so I can send an original as an attachment - but I don't know how to make it an attachment!!!!!

I normally send attachments from work - and the computer there has a thing on the email you use to do it - my home email program has no such thing!!!


Not sure what mail prohram you are using - if it is outlook then you should "insert as an item" the offending mail. Like for eg in Yahoo, you can fwd the mail "as an attachment"

Wanna try and lemme know ?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 02:19 am
This Dutch site gives some international links, where to report - I don't know about the Australian Broadcasting Authority handles such.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 04:41 am
I did it!!! Thank you G!!!!
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the prince
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jul, 2004 04:54 am
See, I am not *that* useless Wink
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